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Posted: Wed May 07, 2008 3:35 pm
by Kenny_McCormic
Just cut off a longer bolt, and be very careful not to crush the carb, happened to me and its a b**** to fix.

Posted: Wed May 07, 2008 3:54 pm
by CharlotteSpreeRider
The shorter bolt is 6x25, the longer bolt is 6x32. You should be able to find those pretty easily.

-aseigler

Posted: Wed May 07, 2008 7:02 pm
by Un1t3dp1aya
thanks for the dimensions. Im going to order them from upsmale, but I thank you nonetheless, you've provided what Honda could not, haha.

Posted: Wed May 07, 2008 8:03 pm
by CharlotteSpreeRider
I know why they couldn't find it. It's an 85 Spree, right? The short bolt is missing the part number and description in the microfiche. If you had told them it was an 87 they'd have found it. That's what I did.

-aseigler

Posted: Wed May 07, 2008 8:28 pm
by Un1t3dp1aya
its actually right in between, 86', he said the model's too old...which i could understand. But i would hope they'd still keep the information if they discontinue the parts.

Posted: Wed May 07, 2008 9:08 pm
by CharlotteSpreeRider
Well, this thread is about words from the wise, so I'm gonna give you some wise words.

Don't bother trying to talk to the people at the Honda shop about a Spree.

If you're in the upper midwest, or Hawaii, it is possible that you might find someone who has a clue. If you're not in one of those areas, you're pretty much out of luck. They will have no idea what you're talking about, more than likely. Microfiche for Honda scooters made in 1983 and after is online with part numbers and descriptions, but some of the fiches have errors, such as looking for that bolt you need. I just checked and the 86 fiche doesn't have that part listed either. For example, go to http://www.hondaparts-direct.com/fiche_ ... detail.asp. Pick scooter, Honda, 1986. Then, model NQ50, and look at the fiche for "CRANKCASE @ OIL PUMP". The long bolt is #25, and the short bolt is #24. When you look down through the parts at the bottom, #25 is there, but #24 is missing. That's when the parts guy at the Honda shop threw up his hands and said "sorry, it's too old".

If you go back to the web site and pick 87 instead of 86, you'll find that #24 is listed on this one as "BOLT, FLANGE (6X25) 96000-06025-00". If you go back to the Honda dealer and tell them you need part 96000-06025-00, they'd be able to order it no problem. I've given up and will only use my local dealer's web site to order parts (it's also about 10% cheaper that way for some reason...). I've brought in part numbers and they've said "that doesn't look like a Honda part number to me". They're useless unless you've got a late model bike. If you have an older one, expect to have to do all the homework yourself, and don't expect the people at the dealer to even seem interested in helping you (other than selling you a new bike for $2k).

-aseigler

Posted: Wed May 07, 2008 10:49 pm
by Un1t3dp1aya
Thank you sir, those model numbers will help very much in the future. I just ordered the bolts from upsmale. I hope i havent ripped the threads with the other bolts i temporarly mounted, I havent been riding it so i feel pretty good about it.

I'll post some pictures down the road once ive finished painting it. Then you can see what you and others on the forum have helped me accomplish.

thanks again. 8)

Posted: Wed May 07, 2008 11:12 pm
by CharlotteSpreeRider
You're more than welcome, but please, don't call me "sir". I'll be 30 this year, and it makes me feel old.

-aseigler

Posted: Wed May 07, 2008 11:17 pm
by Un1t3dp1aya
forgive me, I only ment to show respect, haha......thanks pimp. :D

Posted: Thu May 08, 2008 2:30 am
by maddog
remember the 3 things to check if you get stuck, fuel -spark- compression! i like the sir thing cuz i deal with it everyday, respect is cool.

Posted: Thu May 08, 2008 11:28 am
by GIJoeBob
CharlotteSpreeRider wrote:You're more than welcome, but please, don't call me "sir". I'll be 30 this year, and it makes me feel old.

-aseigler
You had better get used to it. :?

Posted: Thu May 08, 2008 5:25 pm
by Un1t3dp1aya
I used a spacer for the outside bolt...cleaned the carb today....and the air filter...this temp. fix worked beautifully, she's up and running again, although I will switch out the bolts soon as i get the others I ordered.

Im thinking about painting the muffler, should I try to tackle that or send it out to be professionally done?

Posted: Thu May 08, 2008 7:22 pm
by CharlotteSpreeRider
You have to be careful about the paint. Paint made for grills will work just fine, but you have to take into consideration that the muffler gets VERY hot. Not just any ole paint will work on it.

-aseigler

Posted: Fri May 09, 2008 3:25 pm
by dukemartini
go to your local autoparts store they have engine block paint that can withstand tons 'o heat

Posted: Fri May 09, 2008 7:46 pm
by adark248
You may want to check out Duplicolor. I haven't painted a scoot, especially a muffler, but I've read many good things about Duplicolor on this forum.

They have paints that are made to withstand high temps, such as: http://www.duplicolor.com/products/engine.html

The site also says they have paints that match OEM standards for many makers, so that's a plus. Looks like they've got a pretty good selection of colors.