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spree trans is a2 gear, elite is a 3 shaft 4 gear setup.

Kenny_McCormic wrote:spree trans is a2 gear, elite is a 3 shaft 4 gear setup.

More gears, more potential repair costs.

-- Mike

'86 Honda Spree
'05 Ducati Monster S2R

mikehelms wrote:

Kenny_McCormic wrote:spree trans is a2 gear, elite is a 3 shaft 4 gear setup.

More gears, more potential repair costs.

-- Mike

'86 Honda Spree
'05 Ducati Monster S2R

We are dealing with single digit HP numbers, nothing is gonna break, more parts means it will wear slower.

Kenny_McCormic wrote:We are dealing with single digit HP numbers, nothing is gonna break, more parts means it will wear slower.

Not really. More gears increases frictional losses in the driveline, and creates more points of failure. Doesn't matter whether you're pushing two horsepower or two hundred ... the principle is the same.

I'm not saying that it's a bad design ... but if, for instance, the problem was either a lack of oil or a decline in oil quality that caused this problem, then the three gear rear end will almost certainly cost more to repair than the two gear rear end. And a three gear rear end *will* take more work to rebuild.

I'm still working on the idea of a rear end rebuild costing $500 - and the more complicated rear end makes that a lot more plausible.

-- Mike

'86 Honda Spree
'05 Ducati Monster S2R

Its a 2 hour job, unbolt belt cover, remove clutch assembly, remove muffler, remove rear wheel, unbolt cover, remove the gears and replace whatever parts need replacing. They want you to buy a new one.

unless they are figuring on replacing all the gears/shafts and everything else. That would easily end up being over 200 in parts alone. Even though theres no way they all need replaced, especially since he didn't open it up and look at it. More than likey its just a bearing