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scooterwerx wrote:lack of filter will definitely make it run lean....

any ideas of what to put in there for now until I replace it? a sponge?

a cut up t-shirt worked in a pinch for me, just make sure it doenst see WOT for a long time, extremely lean conditions will cause engine failure. i think a sponge would be too restrictive

sounds like I need to upjet soon....


the guys at the scooter store said I could upjet without getting new jets by just drilling a slightly larger hole into the jet.


sounded like a bad idea to me.... what do you think?

quite a few people drill out the jets with "jewelers" drill bits.
I did it with no problems.

http://www.hondaspree.net/phpBB2/viewto ... 09&start=0

do these jets fit the sa50?

http://www.motorcyclecarbs.com/Keihin_A ... F5_C79.cfm

Not sure but the Dellorto phbg jets do

http://www.dellorto.co.uk/merchandise/p ... ctionID=25

scooterwerx wrote:a cut up t-shirt worked in a pinch for me, just make sure it doenst see WOT for a long time, extremely lean conditions will cause engine failure. i think a sponge would be too restrictive

did you just cut a piece of the shirt off, sort of ball the shirt up and then put it into the air box?

evilone wrote:Not sure but the Dellorto phbg jets do

http://www.dellorto.co.uk/merchandise/p ... ctionID=25

yes it does worK!

Greetings:

I've just been through it. No those jets don't fit. Honda-san is big enough to have exclusive domain on the PA-04 carb design, and no one but Honda currently has/can get these unique jets.

My experience is direct, I bought those exact ones from (I think) the same source. They took 'em back as it was their error. I subsequently spoke to a carb vendor/ex-Honda wrench who have me the scoop.

Get a couple of 82-88s to play with and send me $0.42 + your tax-deductible Love Offering to Wheelman's Home for Unloved Aeros and you will receive drills to roll your own 89 and up.

IIRC the biggest Stock was an 88. '87 Aero spec was 82 - might be the size you need for now.. Can't recall what year Elite to search for the 88, but try 88-93 @ Mr.Cycles.com. The jet part number ends with 0**0. The stars represent size.

Don't waste your precious Britney Viewing Web time on Carb sites, they're not there. Your pipe alone will mean you need bigger jets than 78.

find some unifilter foam material at most local motorcycle/dirtbike shop, alternatively can maybe find filter material for lawn mowers or similar

then, do like so: (see custom filter fitment pics below in thread)

http://www.hondaspree.net/phpBB2/viewto ... 1&start=24

I've just been through it. No those jets don't fit. Honda-san is big enough to have exclusive domain on the PA-04 carb design, and no one but Honda currently has/can get these unique jets

So the Dellorto phbg jets do not work. Not according to Veedubh20???

But i'd just get the bits from Wheelman and drill them.

Greetings:

I'm not saying D'Orto jets don't fit. They are just hard to find. Honda's certainly do, and they're easy. I'm offering drills for the price of postage and an address. PM if you want them.

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thanks wheelman!

japan do sell jet kit.

Greetings:

Ohh! Real simple!! Just Google "Japan". It'll take you right to a jet kit for your carb.

Honda has jets up to 88. How about a link to the legendary Dell'Orto jets?