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project. It's a se50 (87 elite) with a 10/1 finely drive ct manifold 21 mm d slide oko carb 98 42 jets malossi head technigas silent pro 50-70cc ruckus variator with 7 gram rollers yellow Malossi spring and 3 green Polini 2k grabber springs and a 3.5 tire.... max rpm is 7800 max temp is 311 just did a compression test it was 110 useing the kick lever the books says stock is 114 to 171 max speed on the flat 35 ....
question
cood low compression be the reason for low speed???? that what i think..
swimmingfree

drop them rollers to 3 5.5g and 3 6g rollers

I had 3 5g rollers and 3 6g rollers in mine pretty much the same everything else other than 9:1 gears. I hit 9k once according to the trail tech but my average was 8500-8800 at wot cruising 45 all day and topped out at 52mph. I would start with lighter rollers. I had the same problem for a bit would only go about 30-35 so I tore it down and put it back together gave the carb a good cleaning and dropped my rollers and it was much better. Last I had in my 21mm was a 105 main and 42 slow with uni filter.

my compression was low at 115psi last time i checked but that motor has over 2200km on it and mostly at WOT mine topped at 52mph to 54mph depending on weather .Ive actually just added some daytona rear gears bringing it to 9.5 to 1 just have to refit the motor and test them out .

dam that light rollers all i have is 6 grams rollers looks like im going to get a set of rollers ...
swimmingfree

graphite9 you are a good man and a grate guy to have on this form ... A+++ seller as well ...
cant say one bad word about you
swimmingfree

went down the road and traded my 6 gram rollers for some 5.... put them got 8100 rpm and 30 mpr?????
so not sure what to do but put the 7s back in...
input please....
swimmingfree

Are you using the malossi kit I gave you? Those af05e dont turn real high rpms but I use to turn 9k rpm all day long on the cylinder I gave you, a keli variator, 6g rollers, that malossi yellow torque spring I gave you, 24mm carb w/ uni, unported block and unported ct manifold, and a stock modified pipe. At 110 psi it is a little low, are you opening the throttle to wide open as youre kicking it? I like to use the starter to start the compression build up then give her a couple good long swift kicks while holding it floored. Also check it after its warmed itself up.
Sounds like you have a little more carb tuning honestly. The Malossi cylinder likes to run pretty lean.

yes im using the jug you gave me i do have a after marked pipe on it now its a technigas silent pro 50-70cc pipe i just put in a 100 ( was 98 ) jet and have not try it yet ... but will try later today looks like rain out ....the compression test was done cold .... im running a 21mm d slide oko carb..
thank you for the parts
swimmingfree

here some info on the pipe

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q ... 1936,d.aWw

I run the silent pro for my 112cc jog clone engine. Theyre decent for all around power. Thanks for the link to that site, if I saw that first I may have re thought my decision but it takes weeks to get the jog 90 exhaust over here Ill stick it out.

dose inn body carry a honda 87 elite se50 belt????
swimmingfree

swimmingfree wrote:dose inn body carry a honda 87 elite se50 belt????
swimmingfree

Yes I carry Malossi Kevlar belts.

Keith

wood you like to post the price for all to see???
swimmingfree

swimmingfree wrote:wood you like to post the price for all to see???
swimmingfree

Hello Yes

45$ shipped

http://www.hondaspree.net/phpBB3/viewto ... =2&t=19538

just pull the cover off and put a tape to the belt it is 0.4375 min is 0.57... the belt has less then 900 miles on it ... dam eBay belts don't last ...
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