Need help with 2000 Elite 50cc

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Re: Need help with 2000 Elite 50cc

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dun rite wrote:
Motley Crue wrote: All I know is I was attempting to loosen the flywheel nut
Thought you were working on the drive face side??
I stand corrected on that post. What I meant to say was the "driven gear nut", not flywheel nut.
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Re: Need help with 2000 Elite 50cc

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the uni filter is popular. just be sure to order one that fits the dimensions of the carburetor inlet.

better order some jets to go with that, think mystic gave you the sizes to start with.
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dun rite wrote:the uni filter is popular. just be sure to order one that fits the dimensions of the carburetor inlet.

better order some jets to go with that, think mystic gave you the sizes to start with.
Yea I am thinking a #78 jet is a good choice, but not sure. Yea a couple people are on my foe list, so.... I don't see your posts lol. One of em likes a certain soda, and the other likes water, and both are dumb clowns. Type away if it makes you happy cuz I ain't seeing any of it, buds! :thumbwink:
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Re: Need help with 2000 Elite 50cc

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you should never start it with the kick cover off, you dont have to put both pieces of the cover on but at least the front half :P if you get an aftermarket air filter you will need an 82 or 84 jet depending on which filter i think. 84 for a free flow and 82 for a uni 2 layer foam :D just take your time and be careful with that rattle gun you can strip bolts etc with that thing i only use them on cars and i use an air powered one i hook to the compressor :D 6 speeds. put the kick cover on and start it to make sure the noise was caused by starting without it. its better to go 20 mph than blown up miles per hour
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Re: Need help with 2000 Elite 50cc

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Mystic wrote:you should never start it with the kick cover off, you dont have to put both pieces of the cover on but at least the front half :P if you get an aftermarket air filter you will need an 82 or 84 jet depending on which filter i think. 84 for a free flow and 82 for a uni 2 layer foam :D just take your time and be careful with that rattle gun you can strip bolts etc with that thing i only use them on cars and i use an air powered one i hook to the compressor :D 6 speeds. put the kick cover on and start it to make sure the noise was caused by starting without it. its better to go 20 mph than blown up miles per hour
I don't know any other way to get that nut to budge. I realize I need to be careful with an impact wrench on the cam, but that freaking nut would not budge using my own arm strength (which is a lot) :wink:

I am hoping to post good results later on
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This is what you do! Get a can of beer, open it, drink it, and if you get pass this little message then you will know how to get it off because, I will tell you how.

1. Spray it heavily with penetrating fluid every 30 minutes.
2. Take out your torch and heat it up. I'm sure you are wondering and thinking to yourself will I melt it. No, * you won't.
3. Take that b**** off.

You are probably not going to do any of the above so, good * luck!

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Good news. It was in fact because of the starter driven gear needed to have the cover on. I used an electric impact wrench and after a few tries the nut came off. I removed the restrictor plate and the * has picked up quite a bit of speed! Next is the main jet, muffler, and air filter to be ordered. :coolcruise:
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groovy, glad to hear you are finally making some progress :D try not to run her wide open (WOT) too much before you get the muffler, main jet, and air filter :P
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So the # main jet i get depends on the air filter i decide to get?
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not completely sure but i would think so, the more air that flows the bigger the jet you need to compensate, get an 82 and an 84 lol
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Re: Need help with 2000 Elite 50cc

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Motley Crue wrote:So the # main jet i get depends on the air filter i decide to get?
Yes.

get several jets to play with, they are cheap and the right one makes a huge difference. :wink:
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How will you know if you have the optimal jet for the air filter being used? Simply more speed when using the right/optimal jet? Healthier sound from the motor? Off the top of your heads, what combination air filter and jet would be the best combination and I will start with that. I am thinking of buying #78, #82, and #84 jets to start, and this air filter..... http://www.partsforscooters.com/Uni-air ... tegory=495

I haven't checked the size of the filter yet, but basically, that filter with the right fitting to my carb. Thoughts? :jack:
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Re: Need help with 2000 Elite 50cc

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yea Uni is good, the 82 jet will probably work good with that one. make sure you get the right size cant remember exactly what the outer diameter is but its like around 1 inch or 1 1/4
1986 Spree/ Eve af16 swapped 65cc Prodigy vari 8g 9:1 Ruima gears
21mm OKO 42/100 32:1 45mph kymco zx exhaust
1994 Elite S 17.5mm Arreche, Daytona reeds, SEF ramp, pump plugged :D
1987 Elite SE50 af16 swapped
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Re: Need help with 2000 Elite 50cc

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Greetings:

The UNI website can tell you which model you need.

The stock carb fiter dlange diameter is 27mm. A 1-inch UNI with the 15-degree kink worked for me.
82 was stock jet for '87 Aero with airbox, so may be small for running a Pod. Check your CHT if you have one or do frequent spark plug checks if not.
If it were mine, I'd consider an 88 or 85 first and swap to temp or plug color.

Dunno about your dealer, but Deepinnaharta Honda sells all sizes for about $17 and charges no shipping.
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