AF16E Spree swap, summer project!

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Re: AF16E Spree swap, summer project!

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Alright, new gears arrived and are pressed onto the shaft. zx50 pulley on the way. Once that arrives this thing will come together quick and i will hopefully have the chance to fire it up over the weekend. So the question pops up what to jet the carb with.

-Polini Corsa
-Ct mani with 21mm OKO

And what pipe to run? Would it be okay to fire it up with the stock pipe or do i dare fire it up with this beast that is too big?
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I probably wont be driving it around but would love to get some heat cycles in and make sure everything is running well and nothing is rubbing
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Stock pipe should be fine for 72cc

I have that pipe on my 125cc :surprise:
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Trafficjamz wrote:Stock pipe should be fine for 72cc

I have that pipe on my 125cc :surprise:
Jeez stock pipe it is. Could i do test runs on the stock pipe and start breaking it in while i save for a pg sectional?

On the stock pipe what would be a good jetting start for break-in?
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1984 Iowa Spreedio aka "Hammy"
-72cc Polini Corsa
-V8 Typhoon Exhaust
-21mm OKO & CT Mani
-ZX Trans 1k Contra
-8.44:1 Gears
-Polini 2 Shoe Clutch
-Koso Vented Clutch Bell
-Polini Ruckus Vari w/ 6.9g weights
-669x18x30 Belt
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Petrock's 1984 Spree wrote:
Trafficjamz wrote:Stock pipe should be fine for 72cc

I have that pipe on my 125cc :surprise:
Jeez stock pipe it is. Could i do test runs on the stock pipe and start breaking it in while i save for a pg sectional?

On the stock pipe what would be a good jetting start for break-in?
115 main and a 39 pilot will get it running ....but I don't know if that will be too rich for the stock pipe. :confused:
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Dang, the smallest main i got is 120. I got a 103 in the 21mm that it came with but thats probably too small.

I might just wait for the sectional then
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-72cc Polini Corsa
-V8 Typhoon Exhaust
-21mm OKO & CT Mani
-ZX Trans 1k Contra
-8.44:1 Gears
-Polini 2 Shoe Clutch
-Koso Vented Clutch Bell
-Polini Ruckus Vari w/ 6.9g weights
-669x18x30 Belt
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Well i was going to find a starter motor for the weed wacker vehicle...but then the ZX50 rear pulley arrived :rock: :rock:

-Zx50 rear pulley
-Venom torque driver
-1k center spring
-Polini 2g evo clutch
-Stock drive face
-669x18x30 Bando belt
-Polini ruck vari
-Koso clutch bell
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Comparison of the ZX50 trans with the stock trans
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ZX50 trans
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P1010934 by jpetrak, on Flickr
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There isn't a much room once you get the belt in there but i think the polini for ruck pulley along with the zx50 rear pulley pulls the belt enough so it wont hit the case. Plus lots of dremel grinding for insurance :thumbsup:
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1984 Iowa Spreedio aka "Hammy"
-72cc Polini Corsa
-V8 Typhoon Exhaust
-21mm OKO & CT Mani
-ZX Trans 1k Contra
-8.44:1 Gears
-Polini 2 Shoe Clutch
-Koso Vented Clutch Bell
-Polini Ruckus Vari w/ 6.9g weights
-669x18x30 Belt
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When swapping connectors on the elite engine so it will work with the spree is it okay if i just electric tape the wires that are supposed to go to the starter? Like just wrap some around each end and keep them seperate from anything for a bit?

The starter wont work anyways cause of the zx drive boss. Can this be a temp fix til i can get some bigger bullet connectors?
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1984 Iowa Spreedio aka "Hammy"
-72cc Polini Corsa
-V8 Typhoon Exhaust
-21mm OKO & CT Mani
-ZX Trans 1k Contra
-8.44:1 Gears
-Polini 2 Shoe Clutch
-Koso Vented Clutch Bell
-Polini Ruckus Vari w/ 6.9g weights
-669x18x30 Belt
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Same deal with the oil level sensor plugs on the wiring harness. Can i just electrical tape those as well?
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1984 Iowa Spreedio aka "Hammy"
-72cc Polini Corsa
-V8 Typhoon Exhaust
-21mm OKO & CT Mani
-ZX Trans 1k Contra
-8.44:1 Gears
-Polini 2 Shoe Clutch
-Koso Vented Clutch Bell
-Polini Ruckus Vari w/ 6.9g weights
-669x18x30 Belt
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Greetngs:

Tires' Actual sizes vary by brand, sometines by a lot.

A Michelin S1 required a lot os case shaving by the exhaust mount so as not to rub.
. A 90/90 is a much safer choice.
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Petrock's 1984 Spree wrote:Same deal with the oil level sensor plugs on the wiring harness. Can i just electrical tape those as well?
Yes, you can tape them off individually so they don't make contact with anything. Does not have to be electrical tape, the handy man's tool always works. :wink:
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Okay great :2thumbs:

There is another wire I'm not sure about. It's from the dio engine bundle and it's a single red wire with a white stripe. It's not the one from the starter, it's by itself. What is this wire for?

I've looked at the wiring diagram but I can't read it because it's way too small
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1984 Iowa Spreedio aka "Hammy"
-72cc Polini Corsa
-V8 Typhoon Exhaust
-21mm OKO & CT Mani
-ZX Trans 1k Contra
-8.44:1 Gears
-Polini 2 Shoe Clutch
-Koso Vented Clutch Bell
-Polini Ruckus Vari w/ 6.9g weights
-669x18x30 Belt
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Petrock's 1984 Spree wrote:There is another wire I'm not sure about. It's from the dio engine bundle and it's a single red wire with a white stripe. It's not the one from the starter, it's by itself. What is this wire for?
The only red wire with a white stripe on 2 of my elites is in the harness connector that goes to starter relay.
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I'll take a pic of it then because it doesn't make any sense to me.

And there is the other green wire in the spree harness. It's the ground wire to the magnet on the stator. Spree magnets have two wires and the elite stator only has one so I guess I'm just taping that one off individually too
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1984 Iowa Spreedio aka "Hammy"
-72cc Polini Corsa
-V8 Typhoon Exhaust
-21mm OKO & CT Mani
-ZX Trans 1k Contra
-8.44:1 Gears
-Polini 2 Shoe Clutch
-Koso Vented Clutch Bell
-Polini Ruckus Vari w/ 6.9g weights
-669x18x30 Belt
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Okay these are the wires I'm talking about. Here are the two that go to the starter. They are the green wire and the red with a white stripe wire.These are on the Elite wire bundle coming from the engine
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P1010953 by jpetrak, on Flickr

Now here is the odd ball wire that makes no sense. It is also a red wire with a white stripe and has some wierd connector on it. It is also coming from the Elite engine bundle. Kinda fuzzy
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P1010949 by jpetrak, on Flickr
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P1010951 by jpetrak, on Flickr

What does this wire do?
Complete NOOB, sorry dudes
1984 Iowa Spreedio aka "Hammy"
-72cc Polini Corsa
-V8 Typhoon Exhaust
-21mm OKO & CT Mani
-ZX Trans 1k Contra
-8.44:1 Gears
-Polini 2 Shoe Clutch
-Koso Vented Clutch Bell
-Polini Ruckus Vari w/ 6.9g weights
-669x18x30 Belt
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that looks like the bystarter connecter but with wheelman quality pics i cant tell :smile:
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