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mr pibbs wrote:Keli vari, daywot ramp plate

what ramp plate is that?post a pic of the ramp plate.

bakaracer wrote:

mr pibbs wrote:Keli vari, daywot ramp plate

what ramp plate is that?post a pic of the ramp plate.

It's an aftermarket plate that daywot sells. I obtained it by way of wheelman. Noticed the middle third smoothed out immediately.

This is probably the reason for the top speed lacking. But i have a problem: the ramp plate is stuck on there really well. I have tried removing it when hot, warm, lukewarm, cold, etc, but have not had any luck. I am afraid I will need a gear puller to make it happen.

Any ideas?

is it stuck on the crank shaft?

bakaracer wrote:is it stuck on the crank shaft?

Correct...

get a little oil and put it on the shaft and where the ramp plate is stuck.it should slide off easier.use a round file and file the hole a little on the ramp plate.

my prefered method for this type of thing is to heat plate and shaft with a torch till red (if possible, for something like this you wont be able to heat till red) then spray shaft with pb blaster or wd40 on both sides if possible, and then give it a tap or two with something along the lines of a dead blow hammer (not a real hammer, of course. that would be bad). do this 2 or 3 times and it will let the lube seep in between the two items.

i dont think its stuck on that tight.plus if he heats it up like that,the crank seal will melt and then he will have another problem.

Just shimmy it back and forth. It will eventually come off without using anything.

bakaracer wrote:i dont think its stuck on that tight.plus if he heats it up like that,the crank seal will melt and then he will have another problem.

ohhh... that is very true...
some wd40 on its own, or some simple wiggling may be your best bet.

You shouldn't doubt the stuck-ness of the ramp plate. It's like there is a ridge on the shaft right before it meets the case and the plate cannot get up onto the thicker part of the shaft.

I have tried oil, but not wd-40. I will give it another go this weekend. I believe it is the ramp plate that is limiting the variator.

mr pibbs wrote:You shouldn't doubt the stuck-ness of the ramp plate. It's like there is a ridge on the shaft right before it meets the case and the plate cannot get up onto the thicker part of the shaft.

I have tried oil, but not wd-40. I will give it another go this weekend. I believe it is the ramp plate that is limiting the variator.

I had the same issues with mine and do everytime I have swapped out rollers.

BUT..... what goes on must come off!

Show it who's boss Pibb's

Installed my side stand.

Found it at target for $5. It felt stong and pretty heavey. It was adjustable, but turns out i wanted it on the shortest "setting".


After jumping on my old frame i had lying around, i decided to use the existing left side rear bolt for the floor board. I really wanted to avoid having to drill anything. I put the bolt facing up to make sure nothing would work it's way loose. It is not as sturdy as Mookie's crazy stand, but it will work to hold up the weight of the bike. Might weld something on there eventually, but for now just use it to park at my house.




Not perfect, it's cheap, easy, and it works.

Still feeling disappointed in the top end. Only seem to be able to cruise at 40 mph. I have a few theories:



Variator not quite maxing out. Cause?

1. Over torquing the nut on the driven face that doesn't allow the belt to slip down far enough? Probably not, but possible.
2. Worn belt? Belt probably has less than 300 miles on it.
3. heavy weights? Had less success with lighter weights.

Any ideas? Slightly Longer belt out there?

I think your either too rich or too lean.

novs86 wrote:I think your either too rich or too lean.

I have considered this. Currently running a 95 jet. Runs a lot better in the cold temps which makes me think it is a little rich.

Currently my rpm's are topping out about 7600ish with 7.5g rollers. If I could push it to 8500ish it would move the speed to around 45.

New DJ-1 pipe coming in this week, it'll probably make a difference.