dio big bore?

MySpree · Post by **MySpree** » Fri May 12, 2006 8:07 am

well now that i have a dio. i think im gonna join this conversation. i went and picked up my 1997 honda elite sa50. o yea dio babay!

well so what is a good bore kit to put on my elite. i want a bolt on and go. no porting like sam ( mopedman ) my elite tops at a little over 40. with a bore kit how fast will it go ( generally )?

darat · Post by **darat** » Fri May 12, 2006 11:29 am

well they way i have things on mine i was doing 45-55 with thos speed things on the side of the road

85stroka · Post by **85stroka** » Fri May 12, 2006 12:35 pm

MySpree wrote:well now that i have a dio. i think im gonna join this conversation. i went and picked up my 1997 honda elite sa50. o yea dio babay! well so what is a good bore kit to put on my elite. i want a bolt on and go. no porting like sam ( mopedman ) my elite tops at a little over 40. with a bore kit how fast will it go ( generally )?

bore only no gearing 50-55
You can run a stock bore with gearing only and hit 50-55mph
You should get a bigger carb/intake 18mm,
There's a bike down here, 72cc, gearing, stock air box/pipe/intake with a 18 carb and it hit's 70's on the flats,mean port job though

hrnytrtlsgsxr · Post by **hrnytrtlsgsxr** » Sat May 13, 2006 2:48 am

85stroka wrote:
MySpree wrote:well now that i have a dio. i think im gonna join this conversation. i went and picked up my 1997 honda elite sa50. o yea dio babay! well so what is a good bore kit to put on my elite. i want a bolt on and go. no porting like sam ( mopedman ) my elite tops at a little over 40. with a bore kit how fast will it go ( generally )?
bore only no gearing 50-55
You can run a stock bore with gearing only and hit 50-55mph
You should get a bigger carb/intake 18mm,
There's a bike down here, 72cc, gearing, stock air box/pipe/intake with a 18 carb and it hit's 70's on the flats,mean port job though

you also need to mention that guy hold the 1/8 mile record for hawaii. kind of unfair when his 72 smoke most strokers out there. So it's in the tuning as well.

hrnytrtlsgsxr · Post by **hrnytrtlsgsxr** » Sat May 13, 2006 2:50 am

it's not necessary to run a larger carb for a bore kit.

85stroka · Post by **85stroka** » Sat May 13, 2006 4:39 am

hrnytrtlsgsxr wrote:it's not necessary to run a larger carb for a bore kit.

that why I put "you should"

85stroka · Post by **85stroka** » Sat May 13, 2006 4:39 am

hrnytrtlsgsxr wrote:
85stroka wrote:
MySpree wrote:well now that i have a dio. i think im gonna join this conversation. i went and picked up my 1997 honda elite sa50. o yea dio babay! well so what is a good bore kit to put on my elite. i want a bolt on and go. no porting like sam ( mopedman ) my elite tops at a little over 40. with a bore kit how fast will it go ( generally )?
bore only no gearing 50-55
You can run a stock bore with gearing only and hit 50-55mph
You should get a bigger carb/intake 18mm,
There's a bike down here, 72cc, gearing, stock air box/pipe/intake with a 18 carb and it hit's 70's on the flats,mean port job though
you also need to mention that guy hold the 1/8 mile record for hawaii. kind of unfair when his 72 smoke most strokers out there. So it's in the tuning as well.

Indeed

diomike · Post by **diomike** » Sat May 13, 2006 12:52 pm

will a new carb/manifould help alot? i want to buy one badly but iam broke

and i cant find any manifolds around here:( i was thinking of makeing one.

bitteraspects · Post by **bitteraspects** » Sat May 13, 2006 1:19 pm

get bore, gers, and trans first. then save up for your air flow parts later

diomike · Post by **diomike** » Sat May 13, 2006 1:22 pm

i got a 70cc kit new sprigs new wheights but i wanted to get a new car/manifold then i was going to buy pipe ,greas and pully.

diomike · Post by **diomike** » Sat May 13, 2006 1:25 pm

the problem with the stoke carb is a cant get the any jets here.
so around 70-75km/h it bogssssssssssssssssss and thats whe my friend passes me on his fumma errrrrrrrrrr lol

hrnytrtlsgsxr · Post by **hrnytrtlsgsxr** » Sat May 13, 2006 2:39 pm

diomike wrote:the problem with the stoke carb is a cant get the any jets here.
so around 70-75km/h it bogssssssssssssssssss and thats whe my friend passes me on his fumma errrrrrrrrrr lol

most of the times the bore kit comes with jet but if it didn't alot of times there is bits that the moped dealers use to drill out the stock jet to the proper size depending if you run the bore kit with airbox,pod filter or open carb.A shop like VT would know the size you could start with.

hrnytrtlsgsxr · Post by **hrnytrtlsgsxr** » Sat May 13, 2006 2:47 pm

85stroka wrote:
hrnytrtlsgsxr wrote:it's not necessary to run a larger carb for a bore kit.
that why I put "you should"

does this mean you know that the motor will run better with the larger carb cause that is not always the case. It's still all in the tuning and it would be easier for him to have the stock carb tuned with a simple drilling out of a jet than to install a new carb with intake with no idea on where to start.With the stock carb it's pretty much answered by most makers of the kits because they make the bore kit the stock carb in mind hence haveng the jet available in alot of the cases.To me the last thin you want to get is the carb and the manifold.

list in priority of what things you do.

derestrict the stock pipe and such

change pulley to aftermarket pulley

bore kit with gears to match.(stick with the airbox cause it is quieter and is proven you don't have to run a pod filter or be open carb to go faster)

Shoe springs and center spring if needed(sometimes it is not)

exhaust to match the bore

intake and carb

diomike · Post by **diomike** » Sat May 13, 2006 6:52 pm

my 70 cc kit came with a jet but its still tooo small i think i need 105to 110
the one i put in my carb is only 100.by the way changing ur carb and manifold isnt hard at all

diomike · Post by **diomike** » Sat May 13, 2006 6:58 pm

i emailed some ppl on ebay for a carb/manifold and if they cant get it . iam just going to tunn mine. iam going to try the honda dealers and see if i can get a stock mainjet and then drill it out..