Honda Gyro TG50M (1985)...lets make her faster?

Does your Spree/Elite already run great, and you're trying to make it quicker/faster? Need a monster motor swap? Discuss your ideas here.

Moderator: Moderator

Twilight
BMX
BMX
Posts: 40
Joined: Mon Dec 01, 2008 10:50 pm
Location: Bellevue, WA

Post by Twilight »

I got a call finally from my friend in Japan that made his roadfox go 45mp/h (72km/h). He told me that after having a small amount of machine work done on the cases, you can use many of the spree and dio kits. As for the exhaust port, he said to cut and weld for best fit.

Larger carb and correct fuel mixture is crucial for stock. When he used honda synthetic 2 stroke oil and made sure the opening was not clogged. It was a easy way to get above 33mph.

Going to send me all the details when he goes home this weekend and looks it over =)
Kenny_McCormic
CBR1000RR
CBR1000RR
Posts: 4957
Joined: Sun Apr 16, 2006 11:51 am
Location: Southern Michigan

Post by Kenny_McCormic »

Do some machining, put a 72cc kit on it. find a bigger intake for a bigger carb. Build a pipe.
I am not a mechanic, nor do I play one on TV. Actually my advice is probably worth slightly less than what you pay to view it.
ALOW1
Elite
Elite
Posts: 675
Joined: Sat Jun 28, 2008 9:57 pm
Location: Morrison,IL

Post by ALOW1 »

Kenny_McCormic wrote:Do some machining, put a 72cc kit on it. find a bigger intake for a bigger carb. Build a pipe.
Thats what I was thinking. Will the factory clutches be able to handle it though?
Kenny_McCormic
CBR1000RR
CBR1000RR
Posts: 4957
Joined: Sun Apr 16, 2006 11:51 am
Location: Southern Michigan

Post by Kenny_McCormic »

I dont see why not.
I am not a mechanic, nor do I play one on TV. Actually my advice is probably worth slightly less than what you pay to view it.
mousewheels
Veteran OG
Veteran OG
Posts: 3485
Joined: Tue May 22, 2007 8:10 pm
Location: North of Seattle, WA

Post by mousewheels »

He told me that after having a small amount of machine work done on the cases, you can use many of the spree and dio kits.
Hey - Dio! Don't have a cyl, but I think the exhaust port is better oriented for a Gyro. Don't know about the cyl bolt spacing - anyone here put Dio cyls in pre-94 Elites and Aeros?

Sorry for the delay, had to root around for the parts in the pics.

Gyro head is perfect fit for the Aero cyl.
Image

Exhaust port has just a little interference with the case bolt boss on the left side case. Hard to see, but the cyl doesn't sit flush. Might take just minor grinding to fix. Some of the left case could also be modified for exhaust pipe clearance. Its clear of the flywheel/fan, just gets into some of the cooling air duct space.
Image

Pic to show what an exhaust pipe cutaway could intrude on
Image

But on the right case half, the cyl sits flush
Image

P.S. - Never heard about '85's being faster than '86. I have a Black one too, and its not really different from the Reds.
Twilight
BMX
BMX
Posts: 40
Joined: Mon Dec 01, 2008 10:50 pm
Location: Bellevue, WA

Post by Twilight »

Not sure about mine then. I did go to pre-mix at 20:1 with Honda Synthetic 2 stroke. It sure does make the top end more peppy.

I took a day off work and thinking and had some fun; Me and the girl took the gyro's into the snow and ripped it up, some fun ice sliding and circle tracking... never forget it! I'll get the video camera setup if we do another run =)

Also made a igloo.

mousewheels- Would you be interested in some japanese performance parts? Might be able to get some pipes and cylinders, not too sure yet.

Also... might be able to get parts

Thanks for the pics of the parts. What aero is that off of? A 80 or 50?
Kenny_McCormic
CBR1000RR
CBR1000RR
Posts: 4957
Joined: Sun Apr 16, 2006 11:51 am
Location: Southern Michigan

Post by Kenny_McCormic »

Do the transfers line up or will it need to be port matched?
I am not a mechanic, nor do I play one on TV. Actually my advice is probably worth slightly less than what you pay to view it.
Twilight
BMX
BMX
Posts: 40
Joined: Mon Dec 01, 2008 10:50 pm
Location: Bellevue, WA

Post by Twilight »

Looks like they match quite well, not sure cause im not looking at them.
mousewheels
Veteran OG
Veteran OG
Posts: 3485
Joined: Tue May 22, 2007 8:10 pm
Location: North of Seattle, WA

Post by mousewheels »

Not sure about mine then. I did go to pre-mix at 20:1 with Honda Synthetic 2 stroke. It sure does make the top end more peppy.
I'll give premix and up the tire psi this spring. Brr! its cold out, but you tearing up on the ice was no doubt fun. Do get some videos!
mousewheels- Would you be interested in some japanese performance parts? Might be able to get some pipes and cylinders, not too sure yet.
Yeah sure! Thanks for asking :)

What aero is that off of? A 80 or 50?
Cyl is an '87 Aero 50 = part number 12101-GN2-030. The -030 is slight oversize 'CYLINDER A (0/+0.005)'. You can see the 'A' stamp on in the pic.
Do the transfers line up or will it need to be port matched?
Side by side they look close. I took identical size pics and made a composite so all can see.

Gyro Cyl
Image

Aero Cyl
Image

Composite
Image
User avatar
Dac
Veteran OG
Veteran OG
Posts: 3340
Joined: Sat May 05, 2007 5:58 pm
Location: SouthWest Michigan
Contact:

Post by Dac »

umm, dudes.....
Image
Honda Hobbit cylinder maybe?
"Its not what you ride, its that you ride"
1996--------Honda Elite S-
1991--------Tomos Targa-
And a Bunch of other bikes.
Twilight
BMX
BMX
Posts: 40
Joined: Mon Dec 01, 2008 10:50 pm
Location: Bellevue, WA

Post by Twilight »

Nice! My friend has a parts one too... lets see if it fits the cases. I'll hopefully find out this weekend.
mousewheels
Veteran OG
Veteran OG
Posts: 3485
Joined: Tue May 22, 2007 8:10 pm
Location: North of Seattle, WA

Post by mousewheels »

umm, dudes.....
Dac -- Oh, there's an idea, never thought to look at the non-forced air cooled cyls. Ex port is closer -- Thanks!
ALOW1
Elite
Elite
Posts: 675
Joined: Sat Jun 28, 2008 9:57 pm
Location: Morrison,IL

Post by ALOW1 »

This thread rocks. I dont own a Gyro but the information here is good. And the pictures posted are very good.
Twilight
BMX
BMX
Posts: 40
Joined: Mon Dec 01, 2008 10:50 pm
Location: Bellevue, WA

Post by Twilight »

Yo mouse, wanna do some snow riding?
maddog
CB900F
CB900F
Posts: 2171
Joined: Mon Jul 23, 1973 10:24 am

Post by maddog »

the gyro & spree were never meant to be modified! a yamaha razz has more hi-po parts- i still have rare honda express parts that will scare you :lol:
some people dream of speed, i own your dreams!
Post Reply