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Re: soft seize?

Posted: Sat Feb 18, 2012 12:43 pm
by Bear45-70
iceman77 wrote:i haven't checked the crank seals yet. i'll try to do that in a little. oil injector is working corectly.
TJ
It is not just about whether the injector is working correctly. Is the "o"ring seal on the pump good. If not that could be your air leak.

Re: soft seize?

Posted: Sat Feb 18, 2012 3:48 pm
by iceman77
ok. crank seals are good i checked compression 3 more time 60pse is the max i get. the bike will not start w/ the electric start but will start w/ the kicker. i don't understand that at all. maybe one of you guys can tell me why that would be.


TJ

Re: soft seize?

Posted: Sat Feb 18, 2012 3:55 pm
by swimmingfree
the speed of the kicker start dose not let it blow by the rings ..
do a compression test with the kicker start it will be higher if you do it the same as you did before..
swimmingfree

Re: soft seize?

Posted: Sat Feb 18, 2012 4:03 pm
by iceman77
swimmingfree wrote:the speed of the kicker start dose not let it blow by the rings ..
do a compression test with the kicker start it will be higher if you do it the same as you did before..
swimmingfree

ok compression check w/ the kick starter is 70psi. the bike will only start w/ the throtle about half way open.



TJ

Re: soft seize?

Posted: Sat Feb 18, 2012 4:06 pm
by Trafficjamz
Are you holding the throttle open during the test?

Are you kicking until the needle stops?

Re: soft seize?

Posted: Sat Feb 18, 2012 4:08 pm
by Trafficjamz
iceman77 wrote:the bike will only start w/ the throtle about half way open.



TJ
Is the engine warm? If it is... this is normal.

Re: soft seize?

Posted: Sat Feb 18, 2012 4:09 pm
by swimmingfree
are you trying to run this motor??
if so did you turn the piston around ??? if no stop and say so..
swimmingfree

Re: soft seize?

Posted: Sat Feb 18, 2012 4:10 pm
by iceman77
no the engine isn't warm. and yes i'm holding the throttle open durning the test and i kick it till the neddle stops.
swimmingfree wrote:are you trying to run this motor??
if so did you turn the piston around ??? if no stop and say so..
swimmingfree
i already turned the piston back around.

Re: soft seize?

Posted: Sat Feb 18, 2012 4:13 pm
by Trafficjamz
swimmingfree wrote:are you trying to run this motor??
if so did you turn the piston around ??? if no stop and say so..
swimmingfree
Yes, very true!

If you still have the piston in backwards, the piston rings can catch on the exhaust port and break very easy. :nervous:

Re: soft seize?

Posted: Sat Feb 18, 2012 4:14 pm
by Trafficjamz
iceman77 wrote:
i already turned the piston back around.

Oh ok good :oops:

Re: soft seize?

Posted: Sat Feb 18, 2012 4:16 pm
by Trafficjamz
Is it possible the rings are on upside down?

Re: soft seize?

Posted: Sat Feb 18, 2012 4:16 pm
by swimmingfree
Trafficjamz
you are alot better then me so its all yours ..
i wonder if his rings are wrong as well in the wron place and up side down one or both ..
swimmingfree

Re: soft seize?

Posted: Sat Feb 18, 2012 4:20 pm
by iceman77
when i turned the piston around i switched the rings as well just to rull that out. but i do know that they aren't upside down.


TJ

Re: soft seize?

Posted: Sat Feb 18, 2012 4:22 pm
by iceman77
piston and rings came from tru72. so they should be right.



TJ

Re: soft seize?

Posted: Sat Feb 18, 2012 4:27 pm
by Trafficjamz
Does it run?


Maybe your gauge is just off.

What pipe, carb, and jets are you running?