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swimmingfree wrote:i hope your getting a new plug ( NGK BPR6HS ) if you running some old plug you had laying around it could be to cold ..
swimmingfree

Good point swimmingfree too cold a plug would be a real pain. I had that problem with my express, I put a too cold plug in it and it would run fine and if I started it when it was kind of warm it would drive for about 60 seconds and it would die from a fouled plug and nothing but swapping the plug would make it start. Pain in the rear on the side of the road.

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I am confused.... new plug is near the top of the list. We are at 4th page of posts and still talking about a 4 dollar plug that has not been changed.

Whatever.

The reason is I have $5.00 left, I borrowed the neighbor's
Scooter today, and at the last minute, he asked if I would
Fill it up. That costs around $3.00.
I am retired and I get paid a week from today.

please don t get mad we are trying to help you and with out knowing your business it get madding on our end...
swimmingfree

I made a video, and I have 2 pics. How do I post them here.
Plus, we all know the spark plug is not why it is running lean.
As you have all said, I have a massive vaccuum leak.
In the past, with all small engines, I always replaced the
Spark plug, and sharpened the lawnmower blade.
I was short this month because I bought the thing for 375, and licensed
it for 88 dollars. Poor thing had not been licensed since 2007, and it was
From out of state. Right off the bat, I rebuilt the carb.
I could not afford the usual float, needle and seat, or fresh gaskets/o-rings.
Sorry I showed up here before putting the new stuff in. After payday, I will
Get the new things, including a crankshaft seal.
Dave

rawhead wrote:I made a video, and I have 2 pics. How do I post them here.
Plus, we all know the spark plug is not why it is running lean.if the plug is black your running rick not lean..
As you have all said, I have a massive vaccuum leak.that becase you said the plug was white
In the past, with all small engines, I always replaced the
Spark plug, and sharpened the lawnmower blade.
I was short this month because I bought the thing for 375, and licensed
it for 88 dollars. Poor thing had not been licensed since 2007, and it was
From out of state. Right off the bat, I rebuilt the carb.
I could not afford the usual float, needle and seat, or fresh gaskets/o-rings.
Sorry I showed up here before putting the new stuff in. After payday, I will
Get the new things, including a crankshaft seal.if you plug is black its not bad seals but it dont hurt to put new in
Dave

to put new new seal in you will need to pull the fly wheel off ..to do so you will need a tool and i dont have a link for that ...
swimmingfree

Thank you all.
Yes, a plug is a bare minimum with any engine not running well.
Wierd how it only runs with the air/fuel mixture screw out 1/2 a turn.
Then plug is white. 3/4 turn and plug turns black. Anything over
That and it will not start. First engine I ever saw that would not
Run with the air/fuel mixture screw out at least 1.5 turns.
new plug payday which is next monday for me.
Good point about the spark plug.
We are talking about a 2 stroke engine. The spark plug should have
been changed before anything.
Sorry, I must be gettin old, wait, I am old. Lol
Dave

Greetings:

There is a possibility that some previous owner has buggered the air screw's little needle or its seat in the bowl. Also, some carbs use a little o-ring around the screw. Check the parts fiche for your specific model and see if that's omitted on your carb. The adjustment window sounds way too touchy.

The air/fuel screw looks nice, but a possible missing o-ring, could be,
Would explain alot. I will online and see if there is an o-ring
for my model.
thanks

Took spree for ride tonight.
So warm out, did not need gloves or coat.
Dave

I may be saved.
Parked next to my spree is a honda elite 80 abandoned here
For years. The owners showed it runs with a jump start.
$100.00
A good friend is a welder.

hoo raa he has done it he realised the spree motor was a waste of time and gone with something with a variator

I will try and put the larger front suspension on it
Too.

i hope you have read this post viewtopic.php?f=16&t=26079 this is one way of doing it ...
swimmingfree

WOW!!!
Amazing!
and too much work.
I am so glad you sent me that link.
Thank you.
I thought about buying a single cylinder
100cc 2stroke and a variator, but they
want a fortune for them.
oh, what to do.