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Re: Elite 50

Posted: Thu Jan 19, 2012 3:57 pm
by swimmingfree
one end of the clutch is on the crank the other is on the tire..if the motor wood rev up high and nothing then the belt and clutch pads is were i wood start .. but if the pipe is plug and old burnt gas dose not get out your not getting new fresh gas in to make power ...

swimmingfree

Re: Elite [SB50] 50

Posted: Thu Jan 19, 2012 5:01 pm
by Wheelman-111
Greetings:

Your issue seems very simple to me. Forget about mucking around with the clutch. Don't bother adjusting the carb. Your compression is Eighty-Nine pounds per square inch, according to your post awhile back. 89 PSI won't give much power, no matter how you "tune" it. Fix the top end and then tune and goof with the clutch if you must. One thread per customer please.

Re: Elite [SB50] 50

Posted: Thu Jan 19, 2012 8:58 pm
by lovemyelite50
Yes, two days agO sheet got a new piston, rings, and gaskets and also a good decarbonizing. It's still acts the same

Re: Elite [SB50] 50

Posted: Thu Jan 19, 2012 9:02 pm
by swimmingfree
have you try running it with out the ex pipe??????
swimmingfree

Re: Elite [SB50] 50

Posted: Thu Jan 19, 2012 9:22 pm
by Mystic
age hardened/cracked oil seals will also cause a loss of compression :P

Re: Elite [SB50] 50

Posted: Thu Jan 19, 2012 9:24 pm
by lovemyelite50
Yep still acts the same I am suspecting the clutch.

Re: Elite [SB50] 50

Posted: Thu Jan 19, 2012 9:27 pm
by lovemyelite50
Could I put an elite 80 clutch on this 50?

Re: Elite [SB50] 50

Posted: Thu Jan 19, 2012 9:54 pm
by Wheelman-111
Greetings:

EssBeEliteLovre axt-ed:
Could I put an elite 80 clutch on this 50?
Maybe, but have you already forgotten that the SB clutch spins "backwards"? This will prevent firm final engagement and it'll slip with every spin of the shaft. Read some of the posts above.
You could probably adapt the six-speed transmission from a V65 Sabre somehow, too, but it wouldn't help because of this:
I mean it literally won't carry me over a speed but it just revs super low and almost dies
What you describe, if accurate, is a low-power issue, not a power transmission issue. Forgive me if I've misapprehended, but "almost dies" sounds like the engine still isn't producing the juice to get you going. No clutch will help that.

When you installed your new top-end kit - and I don't wish to offend here - was the work done correctly? What was your compression ratio AFTER the repair? You never said, and I suspect you never checked. Describe the behavior in greater detail if I have not understood correctly.

Re: Elite [SB50] 50

Posted: Thu Jan 19, 2012 10:02 pm
by lovemyelite50
A small motorcycle dealer did it. And my problem is the clutch is always engaged even at a super low idle, it tries to take off. I just realized that the little rubber stub on the clutch pads are so worn that they are not stopping the pads at a certain distance. The compression now is a solid 113 pounds.

Re: Elite [SB50] 50

Posted: Thu Jan 19, 2012 10:06 pm
by Wheelman-111
Greetings:

Ah, I get it now. The easiest and possibly best solution is to post a WTB ad for a good used Spree or SB clutch.

Re: Elite [SB50] 50

Posted: Wed Jan 25, 2012 2:15 pm
by lonomack
whos selling sb50 plastics and seat?