89 Elite R - my first build

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Re: 89 Elite R - my first build

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No worries my carb kit comes with the adapter plate. :naughty:

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Does it come with the adapter for the 4 bolt mani on the se05 block or the 2 bolt mani on the nq05 block?
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Re: 89 Elite R - my first build

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question: i seen a spree on here (six66) where he had removed the oil tank and just mixes his own fuel. now with the new carb on its way if i were to remove the oil tank i would not have to mess with the linkage that would need to work with the carb to allow oil to flow, and just mix my own fuel. now is this more trouble than its worth? i always carry my oil with me when i ride so i just see it as adding it in as i fuel up.

also with the carb i ordered linked a few posts down i dont see a spot for the bistarter to connect with it. is that needed at this point?
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Re: 89 Elite R - my first build

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The adapter plate is two bolt. Then you bolt the 4 bolt ct intake to that.

As far as the oil tank is concerned. I would just plug the oil injector and mix. The carb kit I sent you has a single cable so no worries about your old throttle cable. To plug the oil pump get a hold of vt cycles and buy a oil plug. There is also a thread on here on how to make a plug. It is pretty easy. We use qaurters here in the states but you are in canada so good luck on that one. lol

Also you dont use the bystarter anymore. You will now have a manual choke. Get use to reaching under your panel to choke it up :jack:

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Hey now canadian money makes d*** good oil plugs. Well idont know but I will find out.

Now as far as the oil pump goes I'm having trouble identifying it. The wires for the starter altenator thing are close to it, and I do not want to remove any portion if it. I guess the question is the rould black cylinder thing, is that a part of the oil pump or is it a part of the starter?

Also I noticed there is a gear that connect to the crank, well I saw this in a picture. Do I need to get to the crank to remove this or do I just remove the oil pump and it comes out?
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It's funny how i can use canadian coins in michigan but anywhere else like indiana or illinois i get strange looks and they will not take the money.
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Greetings:

The oil pump lives at the end of the oil lines, simply enough. It's planted in its socket at the front of the crankcase, below the cylinder base above the starter.
Spray some S100 or engine cleaner and hose off to clean things up.
The retainer plate is attached with 2 8mm hex bolts in 2 planes; one aims at the crank and the other pointed left.
Once removed, the pump wiggles out with its O-Ring, shaft and gear.
You want things clean because you're opening a hole in the crankcase. Not a good place for grime and grit to drop in.
The black thing in the carb with 2 wires is the bystarter.
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Wheelman-111 wrote:Greetings:

The oil pump lives at the end of the oil lines, simply enough. It's planted in its socket at the front of the crankcase, below the cylinder base above the starter.
Spray some S100 or engine cleaner and hose off to clean things up.
The retainer plate is attached with 2 8mm hex bolts in 2 planes; one aims at the crank and the other pointed left.
Once removed, the pump wiggles out with its O-Ring, shaft and gear.
You want things clean because you're opening a hole in the crankcase. Not a good place for grime and grit to drop in.
The black thing in the carb with 2 wires is the bystarter.
Thanks. Its a different black thing that which i speak though. Here is a picture:

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I guess my answer was encrypted in ....... then answer. The black cylinder in the pic is the starter?
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Greetings:

Your pic shows the exhaust flange, the oil pump with its rate-controlling lever, and the metal housing of the electric starter.
The BYstarter is the electric choke on top of the carb.
I don't know what you're referring to as a black cylinder.
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Wheelman-111 wrote:Greetings:

Your pic shows the exhaust flange, the oil pump with its rate-controlling lever, and the metal housing of the electric starter.
The BYstarter is the electric choke on top of the carb.
I don't know what you're referring to as a black cylinder.
I guess its more dirty than black,

Its right below the picture, Im assuming its the metal housing for the electric starter, that i probably shouldn't get engine cleaner on right?
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yes that is the starter :D I dont think engine cleaner will hurt it
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Greetings:

That whole assembly will take a full-on car wash blast all day. Just dry off the terminals after. As long as you don't fill up the muffler or the airbox, you can clean all you want.
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I don't know if I was wrong with my method or not but I simply took a bottle of soapy water and an old tooth brush to my old engine. I figured they use dawn on birds from oil spills so why can't I use it on my motor. It seemed to work like a charm. Clean as a whistle now when it used to look like the inside of a chimney.
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Wheelman-111 wrote:Greetings:

That whole assembly will take a full-on car wash blast all day. Just dry off the terminals after. As long as you don't fill up the muffler or the airbox, you can clean all you want.
Be sure to put the exhaust pipe back on your engine before using this method.
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