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anyone know how to do it? sealed beam to unsealed beam?

what are you talking about??? is this a scooter question

h4 is a headlight bulb, so odds are he's talking about the scooter's headlight.

Newer Elites have a replaceable bulb instead of sealed beam (from what I've read), so it my be drop in for a newer Elite, otherwise DremelÔäó out an old bulb and fit it with a replaceable bulb.

this is a good idea, however could be really hard not straining the electrical system on the scoot in doing so.
the real difficult part would be retro fitting the bulb mount into the old lamp, since our headlights are kind of a rectangle thats squished in on the top, thus making all of the currently available retrofit kits out of the question.

Swap in a newer headlight, although it doesn't mount up.
Make a custom bracket, or do like me and use 20 zip ties.

Eft37 wrote:h4 is a headlight bulb, so odds are he's talking about the scooter's headlight.

Newer Elites have a replaceable bulb instead of sealed beam (from what I've read), so it my be drop in for a newer Elite, otherwise DremelÔäó out an old bulb and fit it with a replaceable bulb.

I've also heard people say that the newer SA50's have a composite light, but my 2001 is still a sealed beam....

wiguy05 wrote:

Eft37 wrote:h4 is a headlight bulb, so odds are he's talking about the scooter's headlight.

Newer Elites have a replaceable bulb instead of sealed beam (from what I've read), so it my be drop in for a newer Elite, otherwise DremelÔäó out an old bulb and fit it with a replaceable bulb.

I've also heard people say that the newer SA50's have a composite light, but my 2001 is still a sealed beam....

Now that is strange. My 2001 has a bulb. Would there have been a midyear conversion? Stranger part of it is 2001 was last year for the Elite 50. Why make change in a model that is going to be dropped?

It seems to convert would require the "globe" or whatever you call it. My 89 looks similar to the 2001, but haven't compared inside works. It might just be a swap out. But then again... maybe not. Since I've got both, I'll take a look tomorrow. It's bedtime and I'm bushed.

I have never checked, but are the headlights between the 2001 elites and an aero/spree the same dimensions?

Good Morning and Happy 4th.

My 2001 Elite has what "looks' like a sealed headlight, with glass, not plastic, but has a bulb, I assume halogen. In appearance, it looks identical to my 89 Elite. I'm thinking the two items might be interchangeable.

wiguy05,
Have you had yours apart to confirm that it is a sealed beam? From outward appearance, you can't tell the difference on mine.

I have never checked, but are the headlights between the 2001 elites and an aero/spree the same dimensions?

Turtle, I haven't tried to swap them around, but with the necked eye, I can't tell the difference between anything in the front cover, signal lights, headlight, all look identical, On my 2001 SA, 1989 SA and 1988 E. I don't have an Aero, but the Elite E is supposed to a child of the Spree.

grafittijunkie doesn't indicate what he's working with (in fact he disappeared and left us buzzing. ) but I think a later model light would drop in, but it would have to be the complete unit.

lonelywanderer posted info on converting to the replaceable 2001+ elite lamp while back.
There are a couple other threads after this one too.
http://www.hondaspree.net/phpBB3/viewto ... ght#p49126

The 2001 and up Elite has a headlight with a replaceable 35w/35w H4 halogen bulb vs the 25 watt non-halogen of the earlier models.

Also, note that the H4 halogen bulb form factor comes in many wattages, I've seen from 18w to 100w. But as others have said, the Honda scooters have limited power available. So be reasonable about wattage upgrades.

I have an un sealed beam...........

Being that I cut one open a couple weeks ago to do the same thing.

I looked at bulbs the other night and am still figuring out how I want the bulb mounted inside the light.

ALOW1 wrote:I have an un sealed beam...........

Being that I cut one open a couple weeks ago to do the same thing.

I looked at bulbs the other night and am still figuring out how I want the bulb mounted inside the light.

Are you talking MOD? I was thinking more of going to Hondasan and buying a complete unit, no cutting, just swap out. I'm confident the plastic is going to be the same, just the light itself changed from sealed beam to two piece halogen unit.

i gree it will probly work just the same. and if not do what one of the other guys said he did, use 20 zip ties. a little JBweld and zipcords and you have a MOD

videonut

I had a burned out bulb laying around, so I cut it. It was more curiosity then anything. I know I can get a unit from an 01, but yet I am cheap and like projects. SO I wanted to know if it was possible to cut one and put a bulb in it.

ALOW1 wrote:I had a burned out bulb laying around, so I cut it. It was more curiosity then anything. I know I can get a unit from an 01, but yet I am cheap and like projects. SO I wanted to know if it was possible to cut one and put a bulb in it.

Glass? Well, anyway. Some people are a glutton for punishment.

do what one of the other guys said he did, use 20 zip ties. a little JBweld and zipcords and you have a MOD

I may be doing that anyway. Brackets are broken on both front and back covers on my 2001 and they are just dangling right now. I wonder if I can get 20 zips in my choice of color?