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clutch

Posted: Sun May 23, 2010 9:15 am
by tedy
hello, which are the heaviest rolls which I can put in my honda elite lx on 1989 to go as quickly as possible.but, have departure really

Re: clutch

Posted: Sun May 23, 2010 3:13 pm
by mr pibbs
You scooter comes with 10g rollers I do believe. If you put heavier rollers in there you will not see a performance gain, on the contrary you will see a performance drop as you will "change gears" too early and will not have enough reving power to speed up.

Consider this. You start your car in 1st then skip to 3rd gear. You car grunts and slowly powers through the gear. Alright, imagine the same thing in your scooter - the difference is that your scooter can't power through the higher gear because the small engine doesn't produce enough torque.

Here's what you want to do:
take out your variator clean out all of the grease and take off the back plate(leave it off)
replace the rollers with LIGHTER ones. Perhaps 8 or 9g - this will be a guess and check process
If you have more money, buy a performance variator (the keli is a good deal)

The idea is that by staying in a "lower gear" longer the engine is able to rev up a little higher and produce high speeds.

In the future, please search the forum before asking a question as most of this information is already floating out there.

Re: clutch

Posted: Mon May 24, 2010 5:04 pm
by tedy
but, i want just a little bit more of speed. i want just the ideal roller for that.

Re: clutch

Posted: Mon May 24, 2010 5:19 pm
by Wheelman-111
Greetings:

I suggest you start with 6 x 8.5 grams and experiment from there.

Re: clutch

Posted: Tue May 25, 2010 12:59 am
by trains420
i don't have your kind of scooter, but there usually is a set for stock, i just don't know what it is, and i don't know for your scooter. it usually is lighter, by how much, i don't know. depends on the performance, i think, i don't know. a little lighter would give you more first gear, if that's what you want to know. but then your engine has to have power for second, and be able to get into it. and first gear is weak. it can pull but runs out of revs, quick. and second on stock variators, are usually weak, for these scooters. mine was i got a 94-01 elite.

Re: clutch

Posted: Sun May 30, 2010 8:52 am
by tedy
Wheelman-111 wrote:Greetings:

I suggest you start with 6 x 8.5 grams and experiment from there.
but how to roll weighed the beginning when it was new scooter?
i have an honda elite 1988 (sa50)

Re: clutch

Posted: Sun May 30, 2010 5:00 pm
by tedy
and what is the best clutch torque spring for have more speed?

Re: clutch

Posted: Mon May 31, 2010 10:56 am
by mr pibbs
The stock weight of your rollers is 6x10g - i believe

Clutch springs will not change top speed - but will only delay rpm in which clutch engages.

Wheelman's advise is spot on for gaining more speed with your specific engine - 8.5g rollers and experiment from there.

Re: clutch

Posted: Tue Jun 01, 2010 9:43 pm
by tedy
but, if i change a clutch, what clutch is for have more speed. on the moteur or the wheel?

Re: clutch

Posted: Tue Jun 01, 2010 9:53 pm
by mr pibbs
The only clutch is in the transmission and it will not change top speed, just take off. Stronger springs mean higher revs at take-off and faster starting acceleration.

Re: clutch

Posted: Thu Jun 10, 2010 11:28 am
by tedy
but i have another question
does an other type of tail light existe for have not luggage rack?
i have an honda elite 1988 (sa50)

Re: clutch

Posted: Thu Jun 10, 2010 10:31 pm
by trains420
does your tailight look like the 94-01 elites? can the tailight daywot sells the kymco fit his? it's for 94-01 but i don't know if it fits.

Re: clutch

Posted: Thu Jun 10, 2010 10:42 pm
by bakaracer
trains420 wrote:does your tailight look like the 94-01 elites? can the tailight daywot sells the kymco fit his? it's for 94-01 but i don't know if it fits.
yes it fits.same body style.

Re: clutch

Posted: Sat Jun 12, 2010 9:56 am
by tedy
but the big bore 66c on ebay is for the 1994 and up. but does it fir for my scooter. i have a honda elite 1988(sa50)

Re: clutch

Posted: Sat Jun 12, 2010 10:02 am
by tedy
can you say to me where i can found the light of you speak in just a moment