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af05 to af18 swap?
Posted: Tue Jun 01, 2010 10:50 pm
by C3Killer
I currently have an '87 that I would like to get faster. I have been pondering an af18 motor, but does anyone have any advice as to how this will mount up? How hard is it going to be to get this to mount up to my '87 Elite? I have tried searching, but can't get much to come up.
Re: af05 to af18 swap?
Posted: Tue Jun 01, 2010 10:53 pm
by tw39515
ive done one its easy. use 87 mount and need dowel inserts to acomidate for smaller bolt. just splice wires color for color.
Re: af05 to af18 swap?
Posted: Tue Jun 01, 2010 10:56 pm
by Trafficjamz
C3Killer wrote:I currently have an '87 that I would like to get faster. I have been pondering an af18 motor, but does anyone have any advice as to how this will mount up? How hard is it going to be to get this to mount up to my '87 Elite? I have tried searching, but can't get much to come up.
The bolt sizes that attach the engine are different sizes. the af18e bolt is larger, so the afo5 mount would have to be drilled out to accept the new bolt. A Longer or shorter shock may be needed also .
Wiring should be fairly easy. Honda uses the same color wire throughout many years of scooters.
Re: af05 to af18 swap?
Posted: Tue Jun 01, 2010 10:57 pm
by Trafficjamz
tw39515 wrote:ive done one its easy. use 87 mount and need dowel inserts to acomidate for smaller bolt. just splice wires color for color.
Hey that sound easier than my way huh.

Re: af05 to af18 swap?
Posted: Tue Jun 01, 2010 11:13 pm
by tw39515
theres two ways to skin a cat. the advice ive gotten from here is awesome, two heads are always better than one. i was able to use the same rear shock. the dowels in the kickstart cover work perfect. if you have access to the right tools the other way would seem to be more sturdy.
Re: af05 to af18 swap?
Posted: Tue Jun 01, 2010 11:15 pm
by Trafficjamz
tw39515 wrote:theres two ways to skin a cat. the advice ive gotten from here is awesome, two heads are always better than one. i was able to use the same rear shock. the dowels in the kickstart cover work perfect.
I had drill bits, no dowels.

Re: af05 to af18 swap?
Posted: Tue Jun 01, 2010 11:17 pm
by tw39515
Drill bits FTW

also if you want to crimp the wires someone gave me a like to the factory style connectors, ill have to look for it.
link
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Re: af05 to af18 swap?
Posted: Tue Jun 01, 2010 11:59 pm
by C3Killer
Thank you peoples!! That takes care of some of my worries. That doesn't seem too hard.
Re: af05 to af18 swap?
Posted: Wed Jun 02, 2010 12:02 am
by C3Killer
I forgot to mention that I have the shock off of an R6, do you think this will be too harsh a ride. The R6 weighs WAY more than this little Elite.
Re: af05 to af18 swap?
Posted: Wed Jun 02, 2010 5:46 am
by bakaracer
if you weigh more than 300lbs then no.
Re: af05 to af18 swap?
Posted: Wed Jun 02, 2010 11:08 pm
by C3Killer
That was a no, don't use it, IF I weighed less than 300 lbs right? Thats kinda what I was thinking. It is soo stiff, my 170 lb body wouldn't budge it.....but it does look cool!

Re: af05 to af18 swap?
Posted: Wed Jun 02, 2010 11:49 pm
by eliteguy50
Remote reservoir shocks are available for scoots if that is what you want. Don't buy a "swift velocity" shock though, they come apart

Re: af05 to af18 swap?
Posted: Thu Jun 03, 2010 12:32 am
by bakaracer
C3Killer wrote:That was a no, don't use it, IF I weighed less than 300 lbs right? Thats kinda what I was thinking. It is soo stiff, my 170 lb body wouldn't budge it.....but it does look cool!

if you can find a skinner less tention spring to put in,it should work. but yeah your to light for that shock and your kidneys will thank you for not using it.

Re: af05 to af18 swap?
Posted: Thu Jun 03, 2010 1:02 am
by 808BMW
The dowels from the kickstart cover work perfect as said, just don't lose them if you pull your motor mount bolt for whatever reason.
These bikes fly with a good motor on it.
Re: af05 to af18 swap?
Posted: Thu Jun 03, 2010 8:31 am
by makadangdang
the way you mounted your motor is the same exact way i mounted my motor on my aero. iv ridden it for at least 3 years now and had no problems with the looseness of the motor because of the dowel pins. just be sure to tighten your shock very well because mine came loose because of the vibration.