Honda Spree and Elite 50 Forums

so i got out of work tonight stop by my dads how to pick up my stockpile of new parts for the elite s i picked up off of trafficjamz now the list as is!
50mm bbk (taz is the man)
28mm oko and intake kit
44.4mm mini stroker crank
29mm V8 exhaust
6.9:1 primary gears
prodigy vari w/6g rollers
1,1.5,2k clutch springs/torque springs
although i only have a picture of what i just got tonight the rest is out at trafficjamz shop waiting to be put togeather

Your picture is too big!!!


Oh there we go......

Yes, Yes, very nice stuf indeed!
It even came with wrist pin bearings
Will it be ready to race on august 13th and 14th?

so the build really starts tomorrow ive got enough parts to really get it started i need a good starting point for jets tho for the 28mm oko
again im running a 50mm bore with a 44.4mm mini stroker crank and ive got 6.9:1 primaries will post pictures tomorrow of the build

Greetings:

I'm breaking in a similar setup in Flash 4.2 Scooter Builds, except my carb is a 28/30 OKO. Currently running a 60/160 pilot-main. It's pretty rich, but staying cool for now. A 158 Main caused a brief overheat, unless it was the 25:1 HP-2 oil... Switched to Motul 800 Offroad @ 32:1 when I upped the Main.

right ill probably start round there! it'll be a relief from 48 hours of work in 4 days i cant wait to get the beast started i think i might be going a tit bit overboard for my needs but hey who's judging ill keep everyone posted trafficjamz has been hounding me to get pics up so ya ill make him happy along with everyone else!

Looks good. Make sure you break her in. Your gonna fly.............

Taz

Just use 1500 center spring only and dont use 2000 spring add lots of strect on v belt.

Dont forget to match boost port and leave transfer port alone.

ive got a 2nd set of eyes working with me good ol trafficjamz is helping but yes boost port work is done thats all have pictures at the shop just got to be late and didnt have time to post pics got together enough to do a compression test first test 155 added switched to 2 thick base gaskets now around 135 hopefully ill post some pics of the build ran into a couple snags but will explain later on

Greetings:

If a Ruima bore, may I suggest you get careful measurements of the piston and cylinder dimensions. This requires more expensive tools than my digital caliper can supply accurately, but even with that primitive instrument there seems to be a good bit of kit-to-kit variation in the critical dimension of piston/cylinder clearance. Different kits (I'm up to 3... ) measure differently. Wheelman caught with pants down. Compression started at 135, but declined a bit for some reason.

In the Service Manual Honda-san specifies 0.04 mm as the tightest stock clearance, with a "service limit" 0f 0.1mm, but of course that's for Stock cylinders and pistons. (See Engine Specs Table at the beginning of Chapter 6.)

If the piston is at all tight in the bore - I would suggest this means a clearance of less than 0.04mm - be especially careful with compression, jetting and spark plug heat range. Opinions on the ideal compression ratio vary. Some have suggested under 120, while others consider it safe up to 135 or so. Of course, a lot depends on what you intend to do with the outcome, i.e. Dragstrip Denizen versus Daily Driver.

Oil brand preferences and premix ratio opinions are all over the place, of course. Some suggest as thick as 16:1 while others experiment with ratios as thin as 50:1 and less. I've always believed that more oil was better, but the jetting has to compensate when you get up near 25:1 or more. The OKO 28 is a popular carb, so jetting advice should be easy to get. Surely there are more experienced readers here who could share their setup observations and outcomes? Aloha, 808? Or is a measure of Secrecy still in effect?

com on mannn get me all paranoid i sure know i dont have those expensive tools but we will see what happens ill keep my eye on all the good stuff with what little i have i have some plugs already on had so i can be doing plug chops and compression will be checked all the time i want to pick up the trail tech vapor for the scoot hopefully ill have a bit of extra cash to do so ive already dumped a good chunk into it thanks for all the great advice im just waiting now to get my butt over to the shop to start for the day i think i may try to post pics first thing

name the new project! i need to come up with a name for my scooter i would like a poll trafficjamz is a good friend and so is kryptonite. trafficjamz has superman kryptonite has kryptonite im thinking i need lex luthor! ya or nay let me know... any other good ideas welcome also!

as stated previously, i'm not a DC guy, so my list of Superman related names will be weak at best...but here are 3 names i like better than lex

1. Bizarro(from bizarroworld)
2. Darkseid(the DC version of Marvel's Apocalypse)
3. General Zod(better villain than lex and has super powers...and a much cooler name for a scoot)

if it were me, and i were a DC fan...i'd go w/ zod. he appeared in the first 2 superman movies(late 70's).

Oh yeah ZOD

I like that.

i dont know...u couldnt just call it "zod" it have to be an all-or-nothing type thing for me... you could get away w/ referring to it as "the general" but..."general zod" should be used as much as possible.