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was wondering what fuel ratio everyone was running????

There is no way to know easily. Optimum air to fuel ratio for performance is 14 to 1 but economy is about 18 to 1. But without expensive equipment there is no way to tell what an individual engines fuel to air ratio is.

let me ask agein what is everyones oil to gas mixture

32:1

32:1 ftw!!!!!

for every quarter of gallon , which is 1oz.

I'm doing 50:1 now with Castor oil.

Bear45-70 wrote:There is no way to know easily. Optimum air to fuel ratio for performance is 14 to 1 but economy is about 18 to 1. But without expensive equipment there is no way to tell what an individual engines fuel to air ratio is.

I suspect Bear knew that this question was NOT about AIR to fuel ratio.

axo wrote:I'm doing 50:1 now with Castor oil.

That seems dangerous to me.

What carb size and jetting are you using?

24oko 48-122 now. Did not have the time to check for the jetting yet.
I think 32:1 is too much. Way too much smoke . Should be good for a racing setup but i am using the scooter for street riding.
Plus 50:1 is what the guys at VT recommended... Remember that Castor oil is very high performance. I would go 32:1 only if i am using some cheap stuff..

axo wrote:24oko 48-122 now. Did not have the time to check for the jetting yet.
I think 32:1 is too much. Way too much smoke . Should be good for a racing setup but i am using the scooter for street riding.
Plus 50:1 is what the guys at VT recommended... Remember that Castor oil is very high performance. I would go 32:1 only if i am using some cheap stuff..

Are you still running the oil pump?

castor 927, recommed 25:1 to 32:1 .

50:1 to 32:1 need to retune jets on pilot and main.

You may not be aware of oil brands are not same premix ratio as 32:1

Some oils or are thick or thin.

veedubh20 wrote:castor 927, recommed 25:1 to 32:1

I don't get it. Why are you using premix if your Elite has an oil pump? It's not a chainsaw.

JJ Joseph wrote:

veedubh20 wrote:castor 927, recommed 25:1 to 32:1

I don't get it. Why are you using premix if your Elite has an oil pump? It's not a chainsaw.

all my bikes have oil pumps removed and i run premix, bear disagrees with this but o well lol... and some ppl add extra oil to tank and run oil pump for big bores......

fastplastic wrote:

JJ Joseph wrote:

veedubh20 wrote:castor 927, recommed 25:1 to 32:1

I don't get it. Why are you using premix if your Elite has an oil pump? It's not a chainsaw.

all my bikes have oil pumps removed and i run premix, bear disagrees with this but o well lol... and some ppl add extra oil to tank and run oil pump for big bores......

I disagree with removing the perfectly good and functioning oil pump just because you want to run extra oil. Just add a smidgen of oil to the gas to bolster the oil/fuel ratio rather than have to carry a lot of extra oil to run without a pump. I do agree with "add extra oil to tank and run oil pump for big bores......".

The factory spree pump supplies somewhere in the 70:1 range I like my 32:1 smoker, but there will never be agreement on anything to do with lubrication. Between 30:1 and 50:1 seems to be the usual range, although there are alot of variables in play.