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A... er... um... different kind of Honda scooter build.

Posted: Tue Nov 30, 2010 6:36 pm
by Fester812
So I've got this moped. It's a 1977 Batavus HS50. It's from Holland, isn't that weird?

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It's a hoot to ride, but it's SOOOO SLLLOOOWWW!!! So I built threw a bigger carb on it, I hand built my own expansion chamber, I tweaked the clutch, I ported, I milled the head. And after all that work, it's a lot faster in top speed, but it's still a dog off the line. Like a dog you have to pedal up to 10mph just to get it to chase a rabbit.

So I got frustrated with it and gave up on it. "You look so fast, why are you so slow? Go sit in the corner!"

A few weeks later, I was at work and looking at this poor unloved little Honda Urban Express that my boss picked up. I was thinking how cool it was - 50cc, 5 port, variated, HONDA. How it was all the things I wish my Batavus was, but in the strangest looking wannabe chopper body.

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European wannabe cafe racer > Japanese wannabe chopper any day... if only they ran like a Honda...

Then it occurred to me, I have a welder, I know how to wire a moped, why don't I just take all the cool things off of the Honda, and stick them on the Batavus. I wonder how that would look?

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BING BANG BOOM! BATAVONDA!

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I need to build an intake to reroute the carb up to the front (air filter sticking out the front of that engine cover). Don't want to cut the bodywork. I need to swap the Honda controls on and finish the wiring. And I'm waiting on brackets to bolt handlebars on to the Honda triple tree (yeah - even the fork was a perfect fit) and a few other odds and ends.

Oh yeah, and now that the pedals have been scrapped, I need to mount some foot pegs. Center stand bolts look like a good place.

Future plans include larger carb, larger reeds, 70cc Polini, another homemade chamber, 16" rear wheel conversion. But those things will come later... once I'm confident my motor mount is safe and strong.


I love it! It's even cooler than I could have imagined. It's all the things I love about mopeds (really just the size and the 500cc two stroke) and all the things I love about Honda scooters (aftermarket galore, easy to tune, durable) and there's even a little vintage European motorcycle throw in for good measure. What more could a person ask for? Enclosed storage space? Bah!

Oh yeah, and my total money spent on this project so far - $250. Including the $25 of odds and ends I just ordered AND both bikes.


Anybody need some Urban Express parts? Maybe I can recoop some of that huge cash outlay. lol.

Re: A... er... um... different kind of Honda scooter build.

Posted: Tue Nov 30, 2010 6:41 pm
by PolarIce
Fester812 wrote:Anybody need some Urban Express parts? Maybe I can recoop some of that huge cash outlay. lol.
Definitely interested in some parts, I have that exact color combo. Ok to PM you?

Re: A... er... um... different kind of Honda scooter build.

Posted: Tue Nov 30, 2010 6:57 pm
by Fester812
Lol. Yeah. Before I posted this I searched "urban express" and saw your thread and thought "That guy needs my seat!".

Re: A... er... um... different kind of Honda scooter build.

Posted: Fri Dec 10, 2010 8:57 am
by Trafficjamz
Fester812 wrote:Anybody need some Urban Express parts? Maybe I can recoop some of that huge cash outlay. lol.
I need a seat from an urban Express :surprise:

Re: A... er... um... different kind of Honda scooter build.

Posted: Fri Dec 10, 2010 11:18 pm
by PolarIce
Trafficjamz wrote:
Fester812 wrote:Anybody need some Urban Express parts? Maybe I can recoop some of that huge cash outlay. lol.
I need a seat from an urban Express :surprise:
I'm pretty sure I beat you to it Traffic... but I haven't heard from him in a few days.

Re: A... er... um... different kind of Honda scooter build.

Posted: Fri Mar 18, 2011 2:16 pm
by northy208
Looking for a rear fender, battery, cover and brake cables for the 81 urban express. Any parts or leads? Thank you!

Re: A... er... um... different kind of Honda scooter build.

Posted: Fri Mar 18, 2011 7:03 pm
by noiseguy
Very cool; I always liked those style 50cc bikes. I look forward to seeing the final project.

Re: A... er... um... different kind of Honda scooter build.

Posted: Fri Mar 18, 2011 9:38 pm
by PolarIce
Fester is a ghost I still have a PM Pending from several months ago. Oh well!

Re: A... er... um... different kind of Honda scooter build.

Posted: Fri Mar 18, 2011 11:29 pm
by 66SIX
I would be interested in the express front forks and wheel and the motor .

Re: A... er... um... different kind of Honda scooter build.

Posted: Sat Mar 19, 2011 12:01 am
by PolarIce
66SIX wrote:I would be interested in the express front forks and wheel and the motor .
Guys this thread is from November... I hit em up for parts directly after his original posts and never got anywhere with him...

Just thought you should know. :b2t:

Re: A... er... um... different kind of Honda scooter build.

Posted: Sat Mar 19, 2011 11:24 am
by burnt_toast
nice one! i love oddball prjs, this one has got potential :thumbsup:

keep us posted with pics man

Re: A... er... um... different kind of Honda scooter build.

Posted: Fri Sep 09, 2011 2:54 pm
by Saxonthebeach
:( You bastardized that nice moped....

Re: A... er... um... different kind of Honda scooter build.

Posted: Fri Sep 09, 2011 5:43 pm
by PolarIce
Saxonthebeach wrote::( You bastardized that nice moped....
This original poster is a ghost as well. I still have an outgoing PM to Fester dated back in 2010.