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86 Spree runs then stops

Posted: Tue Dec 07, 2010 1:55 am
by ALI Z
hey guys, so i had a problem where i would give my spree gas and it would die, so i cleaned the carb. it now runs, i took it down my street, but for some reason started acting up again (the same way as described above). it will run right after i start it up but when i stop giving it gas and try to go again it shuts off when throttle is applied, any ideas? much appreciated.

Re: 86 Spree runs then stops

Posted: Tue Dec 07, 2010 3:40 am
by hailjake
i had the same problem theres 3 different things to adjust on the carb i played with those until it ran you might flood it afew times but just wait 30 mintues and try again also take the spark plug out and crank it over afew times

Re: 86 Spree runs then stops

Posted: Tue Dec 07, 2010 2:40 pm
by Bear45-70
Adjust the idle mixture (air screw) for the highest RPM you can, then adjust the throttle stop (idle speed) until the rear tire does not rotate while on the center stand.

Re: 86 Spree runs then stops

Posted: Tue Dec 07, 2010 4:42 pm
by devenex
Bear is correct, but let me add that you should get it warmed up before adjusting the carb settings.

Re: 86 Spree runs then stops

Posted: Wed Dec 08, 2010 1:14 pm
by ALI Z
hey guys, thanks, that fixed the problem! now onto another lol. so this thing hasnt been run in probably 10 years or more, when i bought it, it had been sitting and i cleaned it up etc....i have white smoke coming out, a lot of it, any ideas? and i also have a leak in the case, can these two be related? the leak is close to the crank case and i also have oil leaking near the wheel, it is leaking where this wire goes in, the gasket/boot is damaged, should probably get a complete new gasket set, thanks guys!

Re: 86 Spree runs then stops

Posted: Wed Dec 08, 2010 3:37 pm
by spewya
white smoke can be the effect of poor quality oil if you have poor oil it can tend to smoke alot .. for mopeds you wand the best quality oil you can get .. try that and lett us know whats goin on

Re: 86 Spree runs then stops

Posted: Wed Dec 08, 2010 4:36 pm
by Wheelman-111
Greetings:

The 25 year-old rubber seals in the oil pump tend to develop seepage. It can be only a drop a day, but the days add up. There can be a couple of ounces of liquid GN-2 sloshing around in the crankcase after a few weeks/months/years, depending on the rate of seepage. When first started, the scooter will smoke like Lindsay Lohan in Rehab for the first few miles/days of operation, then settle down to "Normal" smoke production for a 2-Smoker. If it sits again over the winter, expect another conflagration in the Spring.

A "leak in the case"? Not sure what you mean, but it probably won't run well (or for long) if there's oil coming out. It probably means air can get in, not a good situation. If you mean the gear case, just check the oil level and fix the leak as soon as you can. If it's from the crankcase, I recommend you evaluate carefully before running for long distances at "high" speed.

Re: 86 Spree runs then stops

Posted: Tue Dec 14, 2010 4:26 am
by ALI Z
well after inspection, i found that the leak was coming from the oil pump and dribbling down near the crank case which is why i thought it was leaking there, the oil pump was leaking in 2 places , where the main oil line connects and where the oil pump mounts on the engine. i put a better hose clamp on the oil hose and that solved the first leak, for the second leak the oil pump was a little loose so i tightened the bolt that mounts it, seems to have done the job, will see if there is any oil on the ground tomorrow. any comments or suggestions are welcome, thanks.