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Synthetic 2-stroke vs. standard 2-stroke.

Posted: Mon Aug 30, 2004 8:30 pm
by frog357
What is your opinion on using synthetic oil versus using standard 2-stroke oil?

I found a part # for honda brand, I've heard some swear by synthetic, what's your story?

Honda.ca Synthetic 2-stroke Oil

I found a good discussion on this here.

A thread on this topic was found here.

Posted: Mon Aug 30, 2004 10:35 pm
by noiseguy
For as little as I drive, I'm sticking with regular oil. Synthetic helps reduce carbon buildup, apparently. It's too late for that kind of preventative maintanance on this one, with over 3000 miles of crud in the exhaust.

Posted: Mon Aug 30, 2004 10:47 pm
by frog357
Does anyone know where to get the stuff online? Any good stores are an hour drive from here. I just cleaned the exhaust and looking to keep this thing running for a while. It has 2500 miles.

Synthetic vs Standard oil

Posted: Tue Aug 31, 2004 10:14 am
by Jerry
I always use snowmobile oil. Synthetic may be better as far as carbon buildup but I've not had any such problems.
Being from Michigan, a lot of snowmobile dealers are in this area so it's easy for me to get. A gallon lasts me 2 weeks (four Sprees) and costs around $14, sometimes less if I can get it on sale. The local WalMart and Meijer stores carry it too.
Stay away from the local gas station two stroke brands. Even Lawn Boy brand is way too thick. It's made for mixing not injection. You want something that retains a constant viscosity with changing temperature.

Posted: Tue Aug 31, 2004 1:45 pm
by noiseguy
What about boat (outboard) oil? This comes in quarts and is available at places like WalMart.

A gallon every two weeks? That's a lot of miles on the fleet!

Posted: Tue Aug 31, 2004 4:20 pm
by Jim
frog357 wrote:I just cleaned the exhaust and looking to keep this thing running for a while. It has 2500 miles.
what method did you use to clean the exhaust? ive been looking for a fairly easy way to clean it without an oxy torch

Exhaust and oil

Posted: Wed Sep 01, 2004 10:29 am
by Jerry
I think I would stay away from marine oils. They have hardly any ash content due to environmental regulations. There again, marine oil is made for mixing not injection. Therefore higher viscosity.

Exhaust is easy to clean with a cutoff wheel on a die grinder. Simply cut the side out and manually clean with rotary brush or sandblaster. Simple to reassemble by brazing. A lot of local garages or muffler shops would braze back together for a minor fee if you don't have oxy torch.

Posted: Wed Sep 01, 2004 2:21 pm
by Jim
anyone know if i could soak it in a solvent for a day or so, then drain it out/air compress seal one end to get all of the solvent out? safe?

Posted: Wed Sep 01, 2004 10:09 pm
by frog357
Jim,
This is what I did, sorry it took so long to reply, we used a product called Hydraseal or Hydroseal it cost about $85 a gallon, it's a Decarbonizer, I found a few links of this technique. We soaked mine for 1 day and rinsed it out for an hour with water. It puffed white smoke for a few and it sounded cleaner right away.

http://www.decarbonizer.com/decarbonizer.htm

We bought ours at the local auto parts store.