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Start button doesn't work but will start when short solenoid
Posted: Sun Apr 03, 2011 11:13 am
by keithhlars
When I hit the start button the headlight dims and nothing happens. If I short the solenoid terminals it starts. I was told that power for the solenoid comes from the brake light. So is there a swich somewhere that is engaged when the brake is on that might be bad? If so where is it? If not, what else could I check?
Re: Start button doesn't work but will start when short sole
Posted: Sun Apr 03, 2011 1:35 pm
by bc117
you shouldn't be using the E-start with the engine running, which is the only time your light should be on
Re: Start button doesn't work but will start when short sole
Posted: Sun Apr 03, 2011 2:03 pm
by mousewheels
I was told that power for the solenoid comes from the brake light. So is there a switch somewhere that is engaged when the brake is on that might be bad? If so where is it? If not, what else could I check?
Here's marked up diagram of the starting system. You can see how the brake light circuit powers the 'high side' of the starter relay coil. If your brake light is lighting, it's usually enough, but you could check at the starter relay connector for +12v on the G/Y wire.
Could be starter relay contacts dirty/worn. Can you hear it click when the start switch & brake is energized? If so, given you get the starter to run with the contacts jumpered (.."If I short the solenoid terminals it starts...) check out the relay.

Re: Start button doesn't work but will start when short sole
Posted: Sun Apr 03, 2011 2:12 pm
by keithhlars
Okay I feel really dumb. I just realized from the last reply that you have to have the brake on when you press the start button.
Re: Start button doesn't work but will start when short sole
Posted: Mon Apr 04, 2011 12:30 am
by Wheelman-111
Greetings:
No one here has
ever forgotten this Honda-san Safety-Boy feature. At least, we can't get anyone to admit it...

Re: Start button doesn't work but will start when short sole
Posted: Fri Mar 09, 2012 3:08 pm
by amazing4
Im having the same problem but Ive got both brake switches shorted with jumpers and still missing 12v at relay...also, ive got a small harness with 3 female leads hanging by the oil tank with 1 green, 1 black, and 1 green/yellow stripe. Where does this go and could it be related to starting prob??
Re: Start button doesn't work but will start when short sole
Posted: Sat Mar 10, 2012 5:56 pm
by amazing4
Nevermind..I'm an idiot. Thank you.
Re: Start button doesn't work but will start when short sole
Posted: Sat Mar 10, 2012 8:46 pm
by CNI Dawg
Wheelman-111 wrote:Greetings:
No one here has
ever forgotten this Honda-san Safety-Boy feature. At least, we can't get anyone to admit it...

LOL.....I forgot & did it just yesterday !

:D:D