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Half throttle faster than WOT?

Posted: Sat Jul 02, 2011 11:58 am
by Trafficjamz
On my 125cc stroker setup

1/8th mile run @ 1/2 throttle = best time of the night 10.9sec

1/8th mile run @ Full throttle = avg time of 11.15 sec



Kyrptonite has also reported fastest time with only 1/2 throtte.


Why is this? :confused:

Re: Half throttle faster than WOT?

Posted: Sat Jul 02, 2011 12:20 pm
by SpreeMadness520
:surprise: Maybe I should try half throttle :crazy:

Re: Half throttle faster than WOT?

Posted: Sat Jul 02, 2011 2:08 pm
by evilone
Overcarbed?

Re: Half throttle faster than WOT?

Posted: Sat Jul 02, 2011 2:28 pm
by Wheelman-111
Greetings:

That suggests it's too lean. Too much carb for the setup is also possible.
What RPM at WOT?

Re: Half throttle faster than WOT?

Posted: Sat Jul 02, 2011 3:32 pm
by Bear45-70
evilone wrote:Overcarbed?
BINGO!

You would be better off with a CV carb this big.

Re: Half throttle faster than WOT?

Posted: Sun Jul 03, 2011 12:37 am
by Trafficjamz
Bear45-70 wrote:
evilone wrote:Overcarbed?
BINGO!

You would be better off with a CV carb this big.

CV carb? :confused:

would a 28mm carb help?

Re: Half throttle faster than WOT?

Posted: Sun Jul 03, 2011 12:43 am
by Trafficjamz
Wheelman-111 wrote:Greetings:

That suggests it's too lean. Too much carb for the setup is also possible.
What RPM at WOT?

The highest RPM @ Wide open is 10300 with 9.1 gears.

I suspect that my current pipe make little to no power after 9500.

Holding it at half throttle kinda put me in the "sweet spot" for longer. Max revs @ Half throttle was 9800rpm

Re: Half throttle faster than WOT?

Posted: Sun Jul 03, 2011 12:59 am
by Bear45-70
Trafficjamz wrote:
Bear45-70 wrote:
evilone wrote:Overcarbed?
BINGO!

You would be better off with a CV carb this big.

CV carb? :confused:

would a 28mm carb help?


A CV carb has a normal throttle valve, but the slide is controlled by the a vacuum diaphragm. This makes the engine only see as much the carb as it can handle. CV carbs are used on Quads and 4 stroke scooters.

Re: Half throttle faster than WOT?

Posted: Sun Jul 03, 2011 1:03 am
by Trafficjamz
Bear45-70 wrote:
You would be better off with a CV carb this big.

CV carb? :confused:

would a 28mm carb help?
A CV carb has a normal throttle valve, but the slide is controlled by the a vacuum diaphragm. This makes the engine only see as much the carb as it can handle. CV carbs are used on Quads and 4 stroke scooters.

Oh Yes I have lots of those.... most are from 50cc gy6 china copies.

Should I get one for the 150cc gy6 :?:

Re: Half throttle faster than WOT?

Posted: Sun Jul 03, 2011 1:09 am
by Bear45-70
They make very big CV carbs, Harley Davidson runs a pair of 40 mm CV carbs. My 250 4 stroke quad has a 32mm CV carb while my 400 (actually 376 cc) 4 stroke has 34 mm CV carb. You can't make the motor stumble by crashing the throttle wide open.

Re: Half throttle faster than WOT?

Posted: Sun Jul 03, 2011 1:33 am
by Bear45-70
Trafficjamz wrote:
Bear45-70 wrote:
You would be better off with a CV carb this big.

CV carb? :confused:

would a 28mm carb help?
A CV carb has a normal throttle valve, but the slide is controlled by the a vacuum diaphragm. This makes the engine only see as much the carb as it can handle. CV carbs are used on Quads and 4 stroke scooters.

Oh Yes I have lots of those.... most are from 50cc gy6 china copies.

Should I get one for the 150cc gy6 :?:
I have no clue how big the carb is for the 150cc gy6? But go at least as big as you have now.

Re: Half throttle faster than WOT?

Posted: Sun Jul 03, 2011 3:05 am
by bakaracer
Trafficjamz wrote:On my 125cc stroker setup

1/8th mile run @ 1/2 throttle = best time of the night 10.9sec

1/8th mile run @ Full throttle = avg time of 11.15 sec



Kyrptonite has also reported fastest time with only 1/2 throtte.


Why is this? :confused:
what size carb and what pipe are you using with your 125cc setup?

Re: Half throttle faster than WOT?

Posted: Sun Jul 03, 2011 5:01 am
by Trafficjamz
bakaracer wrote:
Trafficjamz wrote:On my 125cc stroker setup

1/8th mile run @ 1/2 throttle = best time of the night 10.9sec

1/8th mile run @ Full throttle = avg time of 11.15 sec



Kyrptonite has also reported fastest time with only 1/2 throtte.


Why is this? :confused:
what size carb and what pipe are you using with your 125cc setup?
Image

30mm oko carb

Re: Half throttle faster than WOT?

Posted: Sun Jul 03, 2011 2:09 pm
by gatekeeper
Bear45-70 wrote:
Trafficjamz wrote:
Bear45-70 wrote:
You would be better off with a CV carb this big.

CV carb? :confused:

would a 28mm carb help?
A CV carb has a normal throttle valve, but the slide is controlled by the a vacuum diaphragm. This makes the engine only see as much the carb as it can handle. CV carbs are used on Quads and 4 stroke scooters.

Oh Yes I have lots of those.... most are from 50cc gy6 china copies.

Should I get one for the 150cc gy6 :?:
I have no clue how big the carb is for the 150cc gy6? But go at least as big as you have now.

My gy6 150cc engine came with a 24mm cv carb on it.

Re: Half throttle faster than WOT?

Posted: Sun Jul 03, 2011 6:25 pm
by bakaracer
what size inlet is on that pipe? have you tried changing the main jet by going smaller or larger? what temps are you seeing at wot?