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Half throttle faster than WOT?
Posted: Sat Jul 02, 2011 11:58 am
by Trafficjamz
On my 125cc stroker setup
1/8th mile run @ 1/2 throttle = best time of the night 10.9sec
1/8th mile run @ Full throttle = avg time of 11.15 sec
Kyrptonite has also reported fastest time with only 1/2 throtte.
Why is this?

Re: Half throttle faster than WOT?
Posted: Sat Jul 02, 2011 12:20 pm
by SpreeMadness520

Maybe I should try half throttle

Re: Half throttle faster than WOT?
Posted: Sat Jul 02, 2011 2:08 pm
by evilone
Overcarbed?
Re: Half throttle faster than WOT?
Posted: Sat Jul 02, 2011 2:28 pm
by Wheelman-111
Greetings:
That suggests it's too lean. Too much carb for the setup is also possible.
What RPM at WOT?
Re: Half throttle faster than WOT?
Posted: Sat Jul 02, 2011 3:32 pm
by Bear45-70
evilone wrote:Overcarbed?
BINGO!
You would be better off with a CV carb this big.
Re: Half throttle faster than WOT?
Posted: Sun Jul 03, 2011 12:37 am
by Trafficjamz
Bear45-70 wrote:evilone wrote:Overcarbed?
BINGO!
You would be better off with a CV carb this big.
CV carb?
would a 28mm carb help?
Re: Half throttle faster than WOT?
Posted: Sun Jul 03, 2011 12:43 am
by Trafficjamz
Wheelman-111 wrote:Greetings:
That suggests it's too lean. Too much carb for the setup is also possible.
What RPM at WOT?
The highest RPM @ Wide open is 10300 with 9.1 gears.
I suspect that my current pipe make little to no power after 9500.
Holding it at half throttle kinda put me in the "sweet spot" for longer. Max revs @ Half throttle was 9800rpm
Re: Half throttle faster than WOT?
Posted: Sun Jul 03, 2011 12:59 am
by Bear45-70
Trafficjamz wrote:Bear45-70 wrote:evilone wrote:Overcarbed?
BINGO!
You would be better off with a CV carb this big.
CV carb?
would a 28mm carb help?
A CV carb has a normal throttle valve, but the slide is controlled by the a vacuum diaphragm. This makes the engine only see as much the carb as it can handle. CV carbs are used on Quads and 4 stroke scooters.
Re: Half throttle faster than WOT?
Posted: Sun Jul 03, 2011 1:03 am
by Trafficjamz
Bear45-70 wrote:
You would be better off with a CV carb this big.
CV carb?
would a 28mm carb help?
A CV carb has a normal throttle valve, but the slide is controlled by the a vacuum diaphragm. This makes the engine only see as much the carb as it can handle. CV carbs are used on Quads and 4 stroke scooters.
Oh Yes I have lots of those.... most are from 50cc gy6 china copies.
Should I get one for the 150cc gy6

Re: Half throttle faster than WOT?
Posted: Sun Jul 03, 2011 1:09 am
by Bear45-70
They make very big CV carbs, Harley Davidson runs a pair of 40 mm CV carbs. My 250 4 stroke quad has a 32mm CV carb while my 400 (actually 376 cc) 4 stroke has 34 mm CV carb. You can't make the motor stumble by crashing the throttle wide open.
Re: Half throttle faster than WOT?
Posted: Sun Jul 03, 2011 1:33 am
by Bear45-70
Trafficjamz wrote:Bear45-70 wrote:
You would be better off with a CV carb this big.
CV carb?
would a 28mm carb help?
A CV carb has a normal throttle valve, but the slide is controlled by the a vacuum diaphragm. This makes the engine only see as much the carb as it can handle. CV carbs are used on Quads and 4 stroke scooters.
Oh Yes I have lots of those.... most are from 50cc gy6 china copies.
Should I get one for the 150cc gy6

I have no clue how big the carb is for the 150cc gy6? But go at least as big as you have now.
Re: Half throttle faster than WOT?
Posted: Sun Jul 03, 2011 3:05 am
by bakaracer
Trafficjamz wrote:On my 125cc stroker setup
1/8th mile run @ 1/2 throttle = best time of the night 10.9sec
1/8th mile run @ Full throttle = avg time of 11.15 sec
Kyrptonite has also reported fastest time with only 1/2 throtte.
Why is this?

what size carb and what pipe are you using with your 125cc setup?
Re: Half throttle faster than WOT?
Posted: Sun Jul 03, 2011 5:01 am
by Trafficjamz
bakaracer wrote:Trafficjamz wrote:On my 125cc stroker setup
1/8th mile run @ 1/2 throttle = best time of the night 10.9sec
1/8th mile run @ Full throttle = avg time of 11.15 sec
Kyrptonite has also reported fastest time with only 1/2 throtte.
Why is this?

what size carb and what pipe are you using with your 125cc setup?
30mm oko carb
Re: Half throttle faster than WOT?
Posted: Sun Jul 03, 2011 2:09 pm
by gatekeeper
Bear45-70 wrote:Trafficjamz wrote:Bear45-70 wrote:
You would be better off with a CV carb this big.
CV carb?
would a 28mm carb help?
A CV carb has a normal throttle valve, but the slide is controlled by the a vacuum diaphragm. This makes the engine only see as much the carb as it can handle. CV carbs are used on Quads and 4 stroke scooters.
Oh Yes I have lots of those.... most are from 50cc gy6 china copies.
Should I get one for the 150cc gy6

I have no clue how big the carb is for the 150cc gy6? But go at least as big as you have now.
My gy6 150cc engine came with a 24mm cv carb on it.
Re: Half throttle faster than WOT?
Posted: Sun Jul 03, 2011 6:25 pm
by bakaracer
what size inlet is on that pipe? have you tried changing the main jet by going smaller or larger? what temps are you seeing at wot?