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I'm going crazy. Losing spark when hitting bumps/pitch diffs

Posted: Sat Jul 23, 2011 11:24 pm
by Chicago Ben
I'm going CRAZY trying to diagnose this issue. Any time I hit even the smallest pothole (almost even going over a sewer cover) The bike dies momentarily ( losing spark )

My spark plug is snug
My spark is great on smooth surface so I do not think the CDI /ignition coil is bad
My spark cap is brand new (NGK spark cap)
My spark plug is new
My engine starts up instantly
My battery is brand new
Wire harness into engine block ( to stator ) is snug
Wires to battery terminals are snug
All wire plugs are snug
My OKO carb is SNUG with very tight hose clamps
My ignition switch/key works great

:*: anybody ever have this issue?

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Re: I'm going crazy. Losing spark when hitting bumps/pitch d

Posted: Sat Jul 23, 2011 11:30 pm
by Mystic
I hate it too :P have you tried fooling with the exhaust? I think I am developing a leak around the exhaust every time i hit a bump, ordering a new gasket to see if that will solve the problem. been through all the steps like you

Re: I'm going crazy. Losing spark when hitting bumps/pitch d

Posted: Sat Jul 23, 2011 11:32 pm
by Chicago Ben
Mystic wrote:I hate it too :P have you tried fooling with the exhaust? I think I am developing a leak around the exhaust every time i hit a bump, ordering a new gasket to see if that will solve the problem. been through all the steps like you
This issue seems more electrical than anything. I would def hear if I had an exhaust leak as well.

Re: I'm going crazy. Losing spark when hitting bumps/pitch d

Posted: Sat Jul 23, 2011 11:35 pm
by Mystic
I am thinking the leak only develops once a bump is hit then stops once the motor returns to a flat. I will let you know if it solves my problem when i get the new gasket. I made a makeshift one to test and the problem seemed to improve now it only cuts out on big bumps, i can even jump up and down on the seat and it not cut out. before i couldnt even ride in grass lol

Re: I'm going crazy. Losing spark when hitting bumps/pitch d

Posted: Sat Jul 23, 2011 11:38 pm
by Chicago Ben
Mystic wrote:I am thinking the leak only develops once a bump is hit then stops once the motor returns to a flat. I will let you know if it solves my problem when i get the new gasket. I made a makeshift one to test and the problem seemed to improve now it only cuts out on big bumps, i can even jump up and down on the seat and it not cut out. before i couldnt even ride in grass lol
Interesting. Keep me posted.

Re: I'm going crazy. Losing spark when hitting bumps/pitch d

Posted: Sat Jul 23, 2011 11:47 pm
by Chicago Ben
Tomorrow I am going to jiggle every wire while the bike is idling to see if I can identify any trouble areas

Re: I'm going crazy. Losing spark when hitting bumps/pitch d

Posted: Sat Jul 23, 2011 11:52 pm
by Mystic
ahahha good idea, i did that too with no avail. keep your progress posted. i am pretty sure we are having the same problem even though yours is the elite and mine is the spree. I searched the forum and lots of people have had the same problem

Re: I'm going crazy. Losing spark when hitting bumps/pitch d

Posted: Sun Jul 24, 2011 12:10 am
by Chicago Ben
Mystic wrote:ahahha good idea, i did that too with no avail. keep your progress posted. i am pretty sure we are having the same problem even though yours is the elite and mine is the spree. I searched the forum and lots of people have had the same problem
Spree with af16 though right?

Re: I'm going crazy. Losing spark when hitting bumps/pitch d

Posted: Sun Jul 24, 2011 12:49 am
by Mystic
no, this is on my stock Spree. still got some stuff to do on the swapped before i will even know if she will crank :P

Re: I'm going crazy. Losing spark when hitting bumps/pitch d

Posted: Sun Jul 24, 2011 1:14 am
by Bear45-70
Since this started when you installed the new spark plug wire end, my first suspicion would be there is something wrong with it.

Re: I'm going crazy. Losing spark when hitting bumps/pitch d

Posted: Sun Jul 24, 2011 8:32 am
by Chicago Ben
Bear45-70 wrote:Since this started when you installed the new spark plug wire end, my first suspicion would be there is something wrong with it.
I actually believe it has been going on the whole time since I got the engine running. I just wasnt able to tell since my getting was so far off.

Re: I'm going crazy. Losing spark when hitting bumps/pitch d

Posted: Sun Jul 24, 2011 11:19 am
by customx22
You coil is bad change it

Re: I'm going crazy. Losing spark when hitting bumps/pitch d

Posted: Sun Jul 24, 2011 2:45 pm
by Chicago Ben
customx22 wrote:You coil is bad change it
I don't think that is the problem

Re: I'm going crazy. Losing spark when hitting bumps/pitch d

Posted: Sun Jul 24, 2011 2:53 pm
by Mystic
use a multitester on the electricals to completely eliminate those parts from your problem, the manual tells the resistances on the different ignition parts if i am not mistaken

Re: I'm going crazy. Losing spark when hitting bumps/pitch d

Posted: Sun Jul 24, 2011 2:55 pm
by Chicago Ben
Here guys look-

It only dies after the rear tire comes off the wood going forward.

I did this multiple times with the same results.

1) Front tire up on wood then down on wood = no changes
2) Rear tire up on wood = no changes
3) Rear tire down from wood = dies or almost dies every time

Here is a movie of it:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TrIX6tZSijc

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