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85 aero 50, wot today and instantly cut out.
Posted: Sat Aug 20, 2011 4:07 pm
by smasher04
I was doing about 45mph and without any warning a total loss of power. i hear more of a poping on the intake side of the scoot when i was trying to start it. It happend on my way to work today. so i will tair in to hear tonight.
I will start looking at the intake-carb first.
any ideal on what could be the issue?
Re: 85 aero 50, wot today and instantly cut out.
Posted: Sat Aug 20, 2011 4:10 pm
by Bear45-70
With the info you have given, NO and anything would be a total guess.
Re: 85 aero 50, wot today and instantly cut out.
Posted: Sat Aug 20, 2011 4:21 pm
by smasher04
there still was compresson when the engine cut. it slowed down as if i hit the kill switch. no i didnt hit the kill switch.
Re: 85 aero 50, wot today and instantly cut out.
Posted: Sat Aug 20, 2011 5:04 pm
by Bear45-70
smasher04 wrote:there still was compresson when the engine cut. it slowed down as if i hit the kill switch. no i didnt hit the kill switch.
Ignition system died would be my first guess. Check for spark and compression.
Re: 85 aero 50, wot today and instantly cut out.
Posted: Sun Aug 21, 2011 6:47 pm
by smasher04
supper easy fix.
the bolts holding the carb to the intake backed out, and the gasket on one side droped down.
lesson learned.
Re: 85 aero 50, wot today and instantly cut out.
Posted: Sun Aug 21, 2011 7:06 pm
by zuphilius
smasher04 wrote:supper easy fix.
the bolts holding the carb to the intake backed out, and the gasket on one side droped down.
lesson learned.
First, congratulations on figuring this out yourself, this is what owning a scooter is all about, diagnostics.
Now then, I have noticed this at least twice in the last couple week. Is there a torque or something that could be followed to prevent this? Or just give the scooter a once over before riding, a so-called "preventative maintenance"?
Re: 85 aero 50, wot today and instantly cut out.
Posted: Sun Aug 21, 2011 7:46 pm
by motormike
My compliments also for the kwik-find and repair....it is a hands-on hobby....the problem you have experienced has been occurring in my Elite 80, as well as my girlfriends Elite 80....first, the nuts backed off...loctite them and the studs backed off,....loctite them and good now for a few weeks .....I KNOW new o-rings would make a difference in the torque quality of this connection, and loctite should not be needed....I haven't bought them yet, but will if the loctite gives it up....What with all this going on, I have taken to running sans side covers....I can feel the difference in weight, too. That once-over that zuphilius mentioned is good practice....not impossible with the side covers in place....and my covers take about 5 minutes each way....not to metion the risk of breakage....but nobody said it's easy......rock-on......... 
Re: 85 aero 50, wot today and instantly cut out.
Posted: Sun Aug 21, 2011 8:41 pm
by Bear45-70
The service manual on page 1-5 under "Standard Torque Values" says "6 mm screw with 8 mm head.......7 - 11 NM, 0.07 - 1.1 Kg-m, 5 - 8 ft/lbs. Again
Re: 85 aero 50, wot today and instantly cut out.
Posted: Mon Aug 22, 2011 4:05 pm
by Motley Crue
use thread lock, but not the super strong level?or is this a no no on carb screws?
Re: 85 aero 50, wot today and instantly cut out.
Posted: Mon Aug 22, 2011 10:55 pm
by bradthreee
Motley Crue wrote:use thread lock, but not the super strong level?or is this a no no on carb screws?
If you do use it, I'd say use the blue one...