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who needs a bbk on a spree to get 30????? or a af16 or af05 ..


By freeswimming at 2011-09-19

^haha
how much do you weight?

180 lb and no seance... its all in the dermal sandpaper and welding work
and good rings no gear up grades or bigger tire eather yet..
swimmingfree

Got the 180, was the rest of that???

will it do this all day long no , but 30 yess

By freeswimming at 2011-09-19

Honda Spree service manual-download now if you don't have it
viewtopic.php?f=11&t=37


Tools you need on hand:
Compression tester
Piece of glass no smaller than 9 x11 or so
Emery paper wet/dry ( I used 320 and 600)
Dremel with Flex Shaft attachment - you will see why if you don't have one

Here I go rednecking a Spree
First thing you need to do is a ring end gap check. It will tell you how bad things are with the motor. Take off the rings, place it the cylinder and push it down with the piston-about 1/2 to 3/4 of a inch. The piston will keep the rings level. Use filler gage to measure the gap-look up the minimum and maximum size. You may need new rings or a better cylinder.

Cylinder
Grab the dremel with Flex Shaft attachment and some long grinding stone bits about 1/4 by 1 inch. They work the best for cleaning the ports and you may want something bigger for the rest. You're not changing the timing you're just macking the motor breathe better, so stay out of the cylinder. Don't make the port holes taller, side to side not as critical as the exhaust port outlet. Grind the bumpout of it but be careful not to go too far, you could make a hole. So grind to feel and grind some more if you feel safe. Remember you have 3 ways for fresh fuel to get in, and only 1 way to dump spent gas out. The faster and easier you get rid of this, the more fresh fuel you can have-it's a balance act. Lots of fresh fuel and you can't get rid of it fast enough- you lose high rpm by choking on excess gas, not enough fresh fuel and you have loss of power. That's why I clear the side of the cylinder like I do- for freer flowing of fresh fuel.
If you do not do this next step and the rings or cylinder are bad, you will mill the head so low that when you put a new top-end the compression will be so high that the moter will not run. Trust me I know that because I did it. (Learn from my fail lol)
Sprees have at least 2 different heads-one with a bigger and a smaller pocket. That doesn't matter because you're going to mill the head to get the compression you want, which means the head will be put on and taken off a few times and a compression test done.


By freeswimming at 2011-09-22


By freeswimming at 2011-09-22



How to build a P.W.T. (Poor White Trash) mill
Use a piece of clean window glass and emery paper wet-dry (make sure it's clean on the back) and a glass of water (I used 320 and 600). Look at the head and the cylinder so you have a good idea how much of a lip you have. Put some water on the clean glass, put the paper down with water on it and sand for a short time. Turn the head 45 degrees or so and repeat several times. You need to turn it to help keep it level-don't go crazy at first. When you put the head with the old head gasket and do a compression test, see what you have- it should go up. Repeat until you get close, then start with the 600 but make sure you clean all the parts-glass, head,etc.

More to come..don't want to upset the one who translates my dyslexia to English lol

swimmingfree

Do you know what that sound was I just heard??

PROGRESS.

Nice work man- even without "proper" milling / machining tools you did a successful porting job... It evidently worked!

Keep that oil tank filled...

-j

Fail you seem to not have forget the past threads (spreetards red spree) and second you need to have a gps verf. run the stock spedo. is not very accurate..... but yes sprees can even go over 40 with a stock jug your behind the times man.....

p.s. big bore kits dont make you go faster to begin with its about the rpms you turn and your gear ratio.......

o just one more thing there are many reasons why ppl do engine swaps.... pretty sure no does it so they can go 3 or 4 more mph faster then a stock spree....

the motor is out of there this winter ..
not want to put money in to a turd motor and the spree motor is that ..
the gps is for people that need to no what the top speed is.. i said 30 and ill bet it was doing that but 33 or 34.. no.. its close anuff for me ..this was cut off from a diffident post when he said he needed a bbk to hit 30 an i had a couple pm asking me how .. so im doing it ..
as for the (spreetards red spree) never seen it ..

swimmingfree

ps
please put a link and ill let this dog die

fastplastic wrote:Fail you seem to not have forget the past threads (spreetards red spree) and second you need to have a gps verf. run the stock spedo. is not very accurate..... but yes sprees can even go over 40 with a stock jug your behind the times man.....

fastplastic wrote:o just one more thing there are many reasons why ppl do engine swaps.... pretty sure no does it so they can go 3 or 4 more mph faster then a stock spree....

fastplastic wrote:p.s. big bore kits dont make you go faster to begin with its about the rpms you turn and your gear ratio.......

it took you 3 back-to-back posts in 1 thread, to try to make the OP look stupid ? rather than giving someone a hand for doing the work themselves , AND having results ?

you're the kind of troll i ban, from the sites i moderate

Man don't listen to fastplastic ...you are doing good things. There will always be haters.

mopro logan wrote:Man don't listen to suprasnsprees ...you are doing good things. There will always be haters.

you clearly have no idea how to quote posts properly

also, i was sticking up for Swimming..


so i have no idea what kind of point you're attempting to make