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ottoman wrote:How much does the rider weigh?

The weight will only effect the ET not the top speed. What is this obsession with weight?

Bear45-70 wrote:

ottoman wrote:How much does the rider weigh?

The weight will only effect the ET not the top speed. What is this obsession with weight?

Stick to helping guys get their scooters running, 1/8th mile drag racing is obviously out of your area of expertise.

ottoman wrote:

Bear45-70 wrote:

ottoman wrote:How much does the rider weigh?

The weight will only effect the ET not the top speed. What is this obsession with weight?

Stick to helping guys get their scooters running, 1/8th mile drag racing is obviously out of your area of expertise.

I was running 1/8 and 1/4 miles drags before you were born nitwit. *, I had two different rear end gear sets for the different length race tracks. So it is within my expertise, obviously more than yours. Also a slower ET will often garner a high mph because of the longer time to achieve the extra mph.

Bear45-70 wrote:

ottoman wrote:

Bear45-70 wrote:
The weight will only effect the ET not the top speed. What is this obsession with weight?

Stick to helping guys get their scooters running, 1/8th mile drag racing is obviously out of your area of expertise.

I was running 1/8 and 1/4 miles drags before you were born nitwit. *, I had two different rear end gear sets for the different length race tracks. So it is within my expertise, obviously more than yours. Also a slower ET will often garner a high mph because of the longer time to achieve the extra mph.

What you like 100 years old?... I was born in 1954 and FYI I started drag racing in 1970 when I got my drivers license.
Come on down and race with us, other wise your opinions are just... opinions.
Who said anything about MPH anyway... I didnt

Bear45-70 wrote:

ottoman wrote:How much does the rider weigh?

The weight will only effect the ET not the top speed. What is this obsession with weight?

Sorry but in drag racing weight will effect mph as well as ET.

Dude didnt you see who wrote that weight has nothing to do with MPH? That was bear!! He is older than everyone.. done more than anyone and of course knows more than anyone.. and if he doesnt he has a friend that does Just ask him and he will tell you so.

There is no point in educating if you will not listen.

The terminology is "trap" speed , btw. Not top


And for the sake of adding info to this silly bickering , every 100lbs is a tenth of a second





Carry on , ladies

SuprasNsprees wrote: every 100lbs is a tenth of a second

Every 100 pounds is a tenth of a second?

That might be closer to being true, if I was talking about a 2000 lb car

It is all about a power weight ratio

100 lbs lighter on my scooter, changes my ET by more than a full second.

SuprasNsprees wrote:The terminology is "trap" speed , btw. Not top

And in scooter drag racing your trap speed should be very close to your top speed.

If it is not you are probably geared too tall.

E.T. has nothing to do with mph, so a change in E.T. can see no change in mph.

Top speed is a function of horsepower.

ET is all about torque and how quick you are off the line (AKA 60 foot times).

From personal experience, my 1969 428CJ with 3.00 rear end in my street car the ET was 14.70 and mph was 101.

With a set of 4:30 gears, the car ran 14.07 and mph was 102. The vehicle weight never changed, so a major ET change with only a very minor mph change.

Nice try Bear.. too bad no ones believes your theories

ottoman wrote:Nice try Bear.. too bad no ones believes your theories

Only you don't understand and will never get it. Lower gears multiply torque which improves acceleration while horsepower is unchanged by gearing. Hence a better ET with basically no gain in speed. You really have made up your mind and I won't confuse you with the facts. Horsepower to weight ratios are a BS number that they often use for class breaks but the have nothing to do with speed thru the 1/4 mile. But they effect the * out of acceleration. I was doing this stuff back in the 60's and winning so you can't tell me how it works, I know and you are wrong, weight has nothing to do with trap speeds. ET yes, but speed, sorry charlie!

So why did Superman run 7 mph faster with a 100lb lighter rider?

All you do is talk with nothing to back it up... any one can make up a story to back his idea up. Build a drag scoot and race it.. come back with proof to back up you theories.. maybe then some one will listen to you. Right now were all laughing at you

ottoman wrote:So why did Superman run 7 mph faster with a 100lb lighter rider?

All you do is talk with nothing to back it up... any one can make up a story to back his idea up. Build a drag scoot and race it.. come back with proof to back up you theories.. maybe then some one will listen to you. Right now were all laughing at you

But numbnuts, that is not what you claimed. You said that 100 lbs was worth a .10 on the ET. So now you are changing the claim? Oh and was the ET a .10 of a second faster or are you full of crap there?