Honda Spree and Elite 50 Forums

I just got a great deal on a 1985 Elite, 80cc. It is in beautiful condition. If any of you recall, I bought the Elite 50cc last summer and got it running by purchasing a battery for it. The same guy that sold me the 50cc was selling his 80cc for $900. Well he called me around Christmas because he needed money badly, and I bought it from him for $300!

Well I want to know how I can get this thing going upwards of 60-64 mph by this summer. I want to use it as my work transportation. What mods will I need to make that will get me going that fast outside of boring out the engine? High performance muffler, new jet for the carb. What else? Also, what jet would be best?

Greetings:

The Elite 80 has been around for a long time, largely unchanged until it was discontinued a few years ago.

It was wildly popular for many reasons. Styling was just right for its time. It was reliable, roomy, and comfortable around town. Performance (or performance potantial) was not among the reasons for its success. It has an unpretentious, low-output 80cc designed to have just enough torque to motor away with 2 riders aboard. Well, two slender young Japanese riders, anyway...

While I've no doubt that enthusiasts somewhere have coaxed 60 MPH or more from its stock engine, I'm pretty sure those results will require significantly more effort than an exhaust replacement or a different intake and jet. In fact, your 2-stroke 50 has a better chance of seeing 65 than the 4-stroke Elite 80 if you axt me. You can always...

Dude! Swap in a DIO!!

Turn around and sell it for $600 and get a dio!

hahahha

The Elite 80, CH80 scooter was made from 1985 thru 2008, almost unchanged. The aftermarket parts scene is almost non-existent. Why? No one seems to know. Which means a couple of mph increase, maybe but 20 mph increase, NOT gonna happen. It works fine for what Honda designed it to do but that is about it. Without a replacement performance head with bigger valves, a better camshaft, plus a better intake manifold and exhaust, not much is going to change either.

Greetings:

Quoth The Bear:

The aftermarket parts scene is almost non-existent. Why? No one seems to know.

I can speculate. 50cc scooters worldwide have an incredible aftermarket. I think the reason for this is that with a 50, lots of jurisdictions treat them like Bicycles. No special license, no particular insurance, no Legal fuss required. As a result, if they can be made into Motor Vehicles without all the expense and bureaucracy, a 50 becomes Real Transportation on the cheap. Young people (and people who have no license...) scoop 'em up and make 'em useful, with the help of those wacky Italian and Tai parts available at low cost.

An 80 is considered a Motorcycle in most coutries. There simply isn't the market for go-slightly-faster parts, because the campus professors and suburbanites who bought them find the performance perfectly adequate as delivered. The license plate, insurance and taxes are already purchased. It runs forever without requiring much maintenance. The scooter doesn't attract much attention. (And is heavy enough not to be as easily stolen...) No demand for hot parts means there'll be no supply.

Pipe, cam, and carb kits used to be available. Pipe is still available. Been a couple years since I've looked for the others.

According to Motor Scooter Guide the Elite 80

"Aftermarket Scene
Despite the Elite 80ÔÇÖs popularity and long model run, an aftermarket scene never really developed for this scooter. Battlescooter did release an exhaust for this scooter recently but besides that there really isnÔÇÖt anything. Most aftermarket scooter parts are created in Japan and Taiwan and the Elite 80 was never that popular over there which is why there arenÔÇÖt go fast parts available. Until recently, the Japanese and Taiwan folks have seemed to focus on only 2-stroke scooters and mostly 50 cc ones at that."

And

"Complaints
There are a few downsides to the Elite 80 which are good to know about. First, the CH80 doesnÔÇÖt have a fuel filter. My brother was left stranded because crud from a rusty fuel tank collected in the carb and clogged the main jet. I advise anyone with an Elite 80 to go spend $5 on a universal fuel filter and then snip your filter line and slip this in. This is especially important if youÔÇÖre getting an Elite 80 running after several years of sitting and it might have some grub in the tank.

Secondly, the Elite 80 loves to snap exhausts where the header pipe meets the muffler. The design simply fatigues over time and fails, so thereÔÇÖs not much you can do about it short of reinforcing it beforehand, or buying the aftermarket Battlescooter exhaust. Lastly, the Elite 80 doesnÔÇÖt have a kickstarter. This isnÔÇÖt a huge issue but it would be nice to have incase you drain the battery or old age means the battery grows weak. Kickstarters are pretty standard on scooters of this size. Thankfully the battery is easily accessible under the seat if you do wind up with a dead battery."

http://motorscooterguide.net/Honda/Elite80/Elite80.html