Honda Spree and Elite 50 Forums

Got it all running today bought a few parts along with a new battery... I was having power issues earlier in the day and decided to just go buy a new battery.. Well i installed it after i got home (after Charging it) and im having the same problems.. Its will not stay charged.. It started the bike twice then i never had power after that... i have yet been able to start it.. If i jump it throught my golfcart battery everything works.. Also when the battery is on the charger every thing is fine.. But something in lower motor seems to get a little hot while on the charger...None of my lamps work while im running the scooter but as soon as i put it on the charger its fine.... And it will not start even on the charger.. Just trys to crank the dies...Sorry for the long post just trying to explain

alright went and played with it some more.. While the battery is not connected to the scooter it shows that it is charged.. When connected to the scooter my test light shows that its barely alive... Grr i hate electrical

you have a short.

Ya it sounds like a pretty bad short... start checking your wiring harness. Look for places it has been rubbed through, cut, or modified. Ignoring it will ruin your battery and possibly start your scooter and anything around it on fire (your house if it is inside)

THE SPREE HAS A MAGNETO SYSTEM AND WILL RUN WITH NO BATTERY AT ALL. OF COURSE, YOU MUST KICKSTART. AT IDLE WITH NO BATTERY, THE LIGHTS AND HORN WILL BARELY WORK AT ALL.
THE SPREE ALSO HAS A BATTERY WHICH IS PRIMARILY USED TO SUPPORT THE LIGHTS, TURN SIGNALS & HORN AT LOW SPEEDS, WHEN CURRENT FROM THE MAGNETO IS INSUFFICIENT TO POWER ALL THE ACCESSORIES.
THE SPREE HAS ALTERNATOR COILS WHICH SEND CURRENT TO THE RECTIFIER/REGULATOR AND THEN ON TO THE BATTERY TO KEEP THE BATTERY CHARGED WHEN RUNNING. WHEN RUNNING, THE VOLTAGE ACROSS THE BATTERY TERMINALS SHOULD BE 13V AT LEAST. HIGHER YOU REV THE MOTOR, THE HIGHER THE VOLTAGE , SHOULD GO UP TO AROUND 14.5 V.
IF THIS IS NOT THE CASE, YOU MAY HAVE A DEAD RECTIFIER. HONDA ELECTRICS ARE FIRST RATE, BUT NOT INFALLIBLE.
IF YOUR BATTERY WONT HOLD A CHARGE WHILE HOOKED UP, THERE IS NO DOUBT YOU HAVE A DEAD SHORT SOMEWHERE. LOOK FOR SOMETHING MELTED OR SHOWING SIGNS OF BEING HOT.

Well when the battery is charging on the scooter the black box on the left gets pretty hot but so does the started motor.. Could that be my problem?

Point of Interest.

You may wish to disconnect your battery from the scoot before attaching a charger.

I did do that last night started right up this morning.. ran around the block and came home started again then my light started dimming and such Then the battery died.. But i disconnected the box on the left side and lights got brighter and my dash lights worked?? Kinda weird

You've got a short. Get an ammeter and connect it in series with the battery, I'm betting you have about a .5 - 2 Amp drawdown, which it will show. A similar wattage 12V lightbulb will work in a pinch, and will light up.

Once you've done this, start disconnecting things with the key off until the light goes out or current drop stops. This will locate your problem. I'd start with that black box and starter that are getting warm during charging.

But is there a reason why my lights work and they get brighter when i disconnect that black box?

d*** now my battery dies just went it is plugged into the scooter.. This is a nightmare im burned out..This is now my 2nd new battery

if u send you wire harness to me i will fix it.

like every wire on the scooter?? Even up in the dash panel?

could it be my alternator because when im running the scooter i just watch my battery die.. and when i leave it hooked up for about 20 minutes with key off its dead..

do u have power without the batt on it?