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Honda Spree Idles high and cuts out on WOT
Posted: Sat Mar 31, 2012 8:29 pm
by ChevyAndVW
the scooter starts right up no problem. but it idles high and when i give it more gas it bogs down and dies. everything is stock and the air filter is clean. what should i look for? also the screw on the side of the carb doesnt seem to help or make it worse.. any ideas?
Re: Honda Spree Idles high and cuts out on WOT
Posted: Sat Mar 31, 2012 11:47 pm
by abreen89
The throttle screw is the screw with the visible spring. Turn it all the way in and start it up then back it out till idle is where you want it (around 1800 rmp's). I had this same problem on my elite fixed it right away.
go to wikispreedia.com and print out look up your manual for pictures.
Re: Honda Spree Idles high and cuts out on WOT
Posted: Sun Apr 01, 2012 3:51 am
by kingkamehameha
ChevyAndVW wrote: also the screw on the side of the carb doesnt seem to help or make it worse.. any ideas?
you have an air leak somewhere causing a lean fuel mixture. Thats why the screws arent doing anything. Find the air leak and set your carb to the manual spec
Re: Honda Spree Idles high and cuts out on WOT
Posted: Mon Apr 02, 2012 5:29 pm
by ChevyAndVW
so i checked and no air leaks. and 1 7/8 turns out didnt do anything... im going to try the "air/fuel" screw but idk how or what setting. any ideas?
Re: Honda Spree Idles high and cuts out on WOT
Posted: Mon Apr 02, 2012 6:25 pm
by DickB
I just went through a similar problem.
You said you checked for air leaks - how and where?
I would disassemble the carb and make sure every orifice is open. Trust me on this. It is not obvious if one or more are plugged. The detailed Wikispreedia text and pictures for this are your friend. Take your time and do it right; don't miss anything. Don't assume it is OK.
High idle can be impacted by the two adjustment screws. Recommendations for initial setting vary by year - what year is your Spree? Then follow the instructions exactly to make adjustments from the recommended starting point.
But first make sure your carb is clean.
Re: Honda Spree Idles high and cuts out on WOT
Posted: Tue Apr 03, 2012 12:35 am
by ChevyAndVW
my spree is an 1984 i see the idle screw but the screw to the left is a air/fuel screw? it looks like its turned in all the way and non adjustable. im going to go look at it again tomorrow when its light out. any recomdations?
Re: Honda Spree Idles high and cuts out on WOT
Posted: Tue Apr 03, 2012 6:59 pm
by ChevyAndVW
i messed around with both screws and they both seemed to do nothing... any ideas??
Re: Honda Spree Idles high and cuts out on WOT
Posted: Tue Apr 03, 2012 7:03 pm
by ChevyAndVW
it seems to me like its not getting anough gas and too much air. what could this be?
Re: Honda Spree Idles high and cuts out on WOT
Posted: Tue Apr 03, 2012 7:05 pm
by motormike
...an vacuum leak
Re: Honda Spree Idles high and cuts out on WOT
Posted: Tue Apr 03, 2012 7:19 pm
by ChevyAndVW
one side of the "petcock" is capped off. could this be the problem?
Re: Honda Spree Idles high and cuts out on WOT
Posted: Tue Apr 03, 2012 7:41 pm
by Bear45-70
ChevyAndVW wrote:it seems to me like its not getting anough gas and too much air. what could this be?
That is called an air leak.
ChevyAndVW wrote:one side of the "petcock" is capped off. could this be the problem?
You think?
Re: Honda Spree Idles high and cuts out on WOT
Posted: Tue Apr 03, 2012 8:00 pm
by ChevyAndVW
well... it was running good before. the oil pump isnt hooked up so im premixing the gas. i cant find any air leaks. but the vaccum part of the petcock thats capped off... where should that go? i have no idea why it was capped off in the first place. it came that way.
Re: Honda Spree Idles high and cuts out on WOT
Posted: Tue Apr 03, 2012 11:47 pm
by ChevyAndVW
Re: Honda Spree Idles high and cuts out on WOT
Posted: Tue Apr 03, 2012 11:57 pm
by dun rite
sounds like the petcock does not function correctly, and allows fuel to flow freely. If someone has messed with it and didn't replace the screen filter above the petcock in the tank then rust particles have probably plugged the small holes in the carb. Might need to replace petcock with proper type and filter, and give the carb a good soak in a carb dip.
Re: Honda Spree Idles high and cuts out on WOT
Posted: Wed Apr 04, 2012 12:08 am
by ChevyAndVW
the vaccum part of the petcock is blocked off. where does the vaccum line go? i will try to reconnect the line (where ever it goes) and then buy a new petcock.. but i need to know where the vaccum line goes b4 i can go any further. anyone have any pics of where it goes?