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hey just had a few questions on what to get for my 01 elite. I was thinking about getting a 78cc (link below) also a new variator with different gram rollers (9g) (link below) also i thought i would need a new gear ratio so anyone have any ideas on what to run? Also if anyone had any other suggestions to make the scoot go faster please feel free to let me know

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Honda-DIO-50cc- ... 13&vxp=mtr (bbk)
http://www.ebay.com/itm/PULLEY-AERO-NB5 ... 3cc611a84f (variator)

ILLEGALLIFESTYLZ311 wrote:i thought i would need a new gear ratio so anyone have any ideas on what to run?

9:1 and 8.4:1 are common. 8.4:1 is better for more top end but less acceleration from a stop.

ILLEGALLIFESTYLZ311 wrote:http://www.ebay.com/itm/Honda-DIO-50cc- ... 13&vxp=mtr (bbk)
http://www.ebay.com/itm/PULLEY-AERO-NB5 ... 3cc611a84f (variator)

Welcome
The link to the BBK says the crankcase must be machined in order to accept the crankshaft.
Maybe you want a "bolt-on" kit. There are plenty of them available.
Here's what is popular so far as I've seen:
http://www.hondaspree.net/phpBB3/viewto ... =2&t=19538
http://www.ebay.com/itm/POLINI-72cc-BIG ... 87888?pt=R
http://www.ebay.com/itm/POLINI-72cc-COR ... 085278?pt=
My personal choice was the first one. They are all quality kits and have repair parts available.
Good luck with your elite and hope this was helpful to you.

o haha sorry i actually ment to put this one on there. http://www.ebay.com/itm/270774941966?ss ... 1438.l2649

and as for the gears ill go with the 8.4 because right away i was planning on milling the head

and does anyone know if the variator roller upgrade will work. Im tmrying to go for max speed here and also will it make a difference to get diffferent clutch springs? and i wias thinking 6.9 to 1 gear ratios will give me more top end?

would any of these upgrades work for my 01 elite sr

http://www.ebay.com/itm/PRIMARY-DRIVE-G ... 3f06f765b0

http://www.ebay.com/itm/SPEED-VARIATOR- ... 3f1657ae44

Does going lighter on the rollers mean better performance? im trying to go for maxium speed

lighter rollers will increase your take off but limit your top speed.
heavier rollers will limit take off but increase top speed.

i would try for a mid weight i use 7.7 gram polini but thinking of moving to 8 - 8.5 gram

sweet thanks man finally someone helps me on here
so im thinking this is my parts list:
78cc bbk http://www.ebay.com/itm/78CC-ALUMINUM-N ... 3f0b71b90e
9g rollers http://www.ebay.com/itm/SPEED-VARIATOR- ... 3f1657ae44
milled head (done by me)
custom homemade highrise exhaust(made by me, pics to come later when its finished)
polini carbon fiber reeds http://www.ebay.com/itm/ws/eBayISAPI.dl ... 0961624183
gear upgrade 6.9-1 http://www.ebay.com/itm/PRIMARY-DRIVE-G ... 3f06f765b0
high performance cdi http://www.ebay.com/itm/PERFORMANCE-CDI ... 3f01a1c12f

My understanding is your scooter doesn't have a Rev limited so the Fdic is
a big waste of time and money

ILLEGALLIFESTYLZ311 wrote:sweet thanks man finally someone helps me on here
so im thinking this is my parts list:
78cc bbk http://www.ebay.com/itm/78CC-ALUMINUM-N ... 3f0b71b90e
9g rollers http://www.ebay.com/itm/SPEED-VARIATOR- ... 3f1657ae44
milled head (done by me)
custom homemade highrise exhaust(made by me, pics to come later when its finished)
polini carbon fiber reeds http://www.ebay.com/itm/ws/eBayISAPI.dl ... 0961624183
gear upgrade 6.9-1 http://www.ebay.com/itm/PRIMARY-DRIVE-G ... 3f06f765b0
high performance cdi http://www.ebay.com/itm/PERFORMANCE-CDI ... 3f01a1c12f

what type of gas are you planing on running with this setup? 6.9to1 gears is to much gears for that size bore. get 8to1 for the best efficiency for the setup.

91oct. gas wise but how would 6.9 gears be to much. wouldnt it just give me more top end?

get the gears he said..6.9 is way to much for your setup..you will have terrible take off..and what speeds you trying to reach?

i want to 55mph if i get different clutch springs will that help take off. also im milling the head to give it more umph

ILLEGALLIFESTYLZ311 wrote:i want to 55mph if i get different clutch springs will that help take off. also im milling the head to give it more umph

using smaller gears doesnt mean its going to go faster. there is a point where the motor cant turn the gears and max them out without and help from either tail wind,down hill or drafting someone or something.you dont have enough torque to turn those gears efficiently with that size motor. you can get to 55-70mph with 8to1 gears. 55mph no problem with those gears. milling the head on a kit that already has a high compression ratio for the fuel your using will only make it easier to blow that kit up or seize it. the only time you mill the head is if the compression ratio is to low for the fuel your using or getting the squish where it needs to be.