have i done all to i can do se50 dont want bbk or biger carb

Does your Spree/Elite already run great, and you're trying to make it quicker/faster? Need a monster motor swap? Discuss your ideas here.

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have i done all to i can do se50 dont want bbk or biger carb

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ok guys here it is se50 87 elite with this done to it
head milled
ex port open
hand made pipe
3.5 back tire
1.85 back rim
Ruckus variator ,1500 spring and 5 gram rollers
have 10 to 1 final drive
belt is 9/16 wide

dont want a bbk or bigger carb

the question is what else can be done for speed ???? top speed is 45+ now
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45 is already impressive; about 10 more than Honda-san ordained.
I believe the PA Carb can't fuel much more power than you have.
If you port the stock intake mani and mount an Amal-Arreche 17.5 or 19 you can touch 50.
If not, what else is there to do?
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porting of the block and bore will help alot with the flow of air/fuel
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You should be able to do 50+ with what you did. That hand made pipe is suspect.
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this dose not show 10 to 1 but i wood guss by it that im maxing out at a little over 8000 rpm i have the 3 read block in it wood love to fine a steel read for my modified read block.. the cf read did not last long and jammed between the piston and jug ... so if some has one let me no....

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Wheelman-111 wrote:Greetings:

45 is already impressive; about 10 more than Honda-san ordained.
I believe the PA Carb can't fuel much more power than you have.
If you port the stock intake mani and mount an Amal-Arreche 17.5 or 19 you can touch 50.
If not, what else is there to do?
Wheelman-111
wood like more info on the carbs you mention and a link as well
bakaracer wrote:You should be able to do 50+ with what you did. That hand made pipe is suspect.
yes the pipe may be holding it back but the person i got the motor from did not have the stock pipe...
thank for your time
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8 gram rollers, stock carb , after market air filter and 105 jet
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is a new Honda Elite SE50, Drive Belt 23100-GG2-751 = to 654-18-30 or is this better then stock belt????
in the service manual the stander is 15.5 service limit of 14.5 so the 18 is bigger but is the length right?????

yes im belt lost and confuse ??? lol
well more then ????? lol
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Greetings:

Aero and all standard Elite belts are 641 x 15.5 x 30. The 654x18 is the ZX "Short" belt. Unless there's a way to install a ZX boss and larger rear pulley on your SE/05 (and there isn't - the crank splines are too short...) that ZX belt will be too long. Bando 641 or the Malossi or Polini equivalents are pretty much your only options.
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thank you Wheelman-111
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8 gram rollers, stock carb , after market air filter and 105 jet
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yea the gear ratio sucks
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looking for a steel read that is like the cf read in the photo..
hope some one has a steel one ..
the cf one did not last some one over here said that why it blue was i put the read stop on with the cf read ?????
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hay love to make a read out of steal... but dont have a clue were to get it or what kind of steal to get have the ruff input on the size i need but that is all i have ..if some one has a old read out or what ever that is big anuff to make one out of let me no what you need for it.... or wood like you guys input and help if you wood on what kind of steal to try to fine....
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ruckus variator , 3.5 tire , 1500 drive face spring , a 64 bbk ,
8 gram rollers, stock carb , after market air filter and 105 jet
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I would try to go with aftermarket reeds.

I saw a CT mani setup with a stock carb fitting on top not too long ago.......i think it was from treatland.
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went thou tazland001 post did not find it will look more larte..
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ruckus variator , 3.5 tire , 1500 drive face spring , a 64 bbk ,
8 gram rollers, stock carb , after market air filter and 105 jet
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Trafficjamz wrote:I would try to go with aftermarket reeds.

I saw a CT mani setup with a stock carb fitting on top not too long ago.......i think it was from treatland.

I found this on ebay

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Large reeds.......smaller carb.
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Trafficjamz
ok i feel like im bringing a butter knife to a gun battle???? lol
i look at e bay for ct intake manifold,,, tas stuff ,, honda elite,,, and a fue other ....
so wood you lead me there with a link
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se50 crank...

SpreJunk 87elite in a spree body
ruckus variator , 3.5 tire , 1500 drive face spring , a 64 bbk ,
8 gram rollers, stock carb , after market air filter and 105 jet
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