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How could you tell a soft seize?

1. IF you were riding along great and it suddenly went dead with an accompanying high pitched whining or grinding sound

2. Check compression

3. Take the head and cylinder off and physically inspect the piston and cylinder walls.

Mystic wrote:1. IF you were riding along great and it suddenly went dead with an accompanying high pitched whining or grinding sound

2. Check compression

3. Take the head and cylinder off and physically inspect the piston and cylinder walls.

Thanks for the heads up.

Mystic wrote:1. IF you were riding along great and it suddenly went dead with an accompanying high pitched whining or grinding sound

2. Check compression

3. Take the head and cylinder off and physically inspect the piston and cylinder walls.

You just described a full hard seize. My definition of a soft sieze is a momentary loss of power followed by a little burble. Bike may shut off and not start back up for a little while. A hard sieze is when the scker seizes and and when you kick um the kicker is frozen at first. Any grinding action is considered a full hard sieze

you can also just seize the rings, the cylinder would have to be honed and an oversized piston + rings installed.

if it wasnt soft seized too bad, cant you just take the brake cylinder hone to the cylinder and clean it up a bit and pop in some new rings and maybe a new piston, replace the circlips and giv'er.

the cylinder is easy clean up, if you see a black spot on the piston its known as a flat spot, i would change the piston and ride on.