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Spree Trouble KickstucK!
Posted: Thu Nov 15, 2012 6:52 pm
by Archimedes
hello;
Having a little trouble, I have a 86 that I got running back in March. The spree worked fine untill one day it died on my way to work (not sure why) Now its months later and I'm trying to get it started again before it gets to cold to work on but the kickstarter is "stuck". The engine does turn over so i know its not that. But the kickstarter will only move if stomped on, and will not return without a reverse stomping (did not do this more than 3 times) Does this have to do with transmission?
Re: Spree Trouble KickstucK!
Posted: Thu Nov 15, 2012 7:04 pm
by Lift Kit
There is no transmission, the kick starter directly engages the drive pulley. Since the drive pulley is supposed to turn when the engine turns over, this is alarming. You should take off the left crankcase cover and the cause should immediately become apparent. Instructions for taking off the left crankcase cover are on page 8-2 of the service manual. Instructions for inspecting the kick starter are right after that.
Re: Spree Trouble KickstucK!
Posted: Thu Nov 15, 2012 8:38 pm
by Archimedes
gotcha, Am I correct in understanding that gaskets for this no longer exist, so if i were to take it off i would need liquid gasket?
Re: Spree Trouble KickstucK!
Posted: Thu Nov 15, 2012 9:23 pm
by motormike
Archimedes wrote:gotcha, Am I correct in understanding that gaskets for this no longer exist, so if i were to take it off i would need liquid gasket?
Honda parts fiche shows side cover gasket "Discontinued". google search and get lucky on ebay, maybe... 
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/HONDA-NQ50-NE ... 4845431c58
Re: Spree Trouble KickstucK!
Posted: Thu Nov 15, 2012 9:51 pm
by Lift Kit
How important is the crankcase cover gasket? Is it just to keep out dust?
Re: Spree Trouble KickstucK!
Posted: Thu Nov 15, 2012 10:02 pm
by Archimedes
opened up the side and the driven gear is stuck and wont let the kickstart shaft return, I tried gently prying but it wont come out, any body know what to do
Re: Spree Trouble KickstucK!
Posted: Thu Nov 15, 2012 11:20 pm
by motormike
Lift Kit wrote:How important is the crankcase cover gasket? Is it just to keep out dust?
Dust and water...and silicone would be okay in lieu of a gasket.
Re: Spree Trouble KickstucK!
Posted: Fri Nov 16, 2012 1:45 am
by Archimedes
Ive been at it all night till now and finally got the gears apart. After pulling them out cleaning oiling them and putting a new bb in I reassembled it and got it to work!
Re: Spree Trouble KickstucK!
Posted: Fri Nov 16, 2012 11:53 am
by Lift Kit
Nice work.
Re: Spree Trouble KickstucK!
Posted: Thu Nov 22, 2012 4:35 pm
by JJ Joseph
Good job! This is a basic maintenance item on all scooters. The kick starter gets gummed up with rubber/asbestos dust and kevlar crud from the belt and clutch. It makes a horrible sticky mess that has to be cleaned up every 5000 miles or so. The gasket isn't too terribly important unless you're riding in water. The belt and clutch slip when wet. And as you found out, the crud inside the case is far worse than the crud on the road.