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Does stock pipe suck. ? Is it making me lose performance?

My v8 pipe is in the mail. but i cant help but wanna ride today its sunny and 47 in Michigan. in Dec that's crazy!

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when it would have been clearly better to ignore.
I'm just fine here Wheelie, but slow to learn how
to reply when faced with Bear bait.

motormike wrote:Any post that asks a question such as yours can NOT be answered.
Readers have NO idea what kind of bike you are referring to....

dude u act like a bot i swear .. The question is in plain old English .. and in performance help ..
if you cant help don't post .. but don't make it harder than it seems ..

Does a stock pipe suck compared to a aftermarket pipe .. asking again

or maybe i should have done a poll ? geez oh petes

Greetings:

Uhh, Mike O' Motor? You OK Dawg? I think it says Kymco ZX in his sig line, unless he means the Elsie. In the former case, the stock pipe WILL prevent your 72ccs from Being All that They Can Be, but it'll still perform a good bit better than stock on the low end. It stifles the power in the higher revs, for sure.

On the Elsinore, don't change A Thing!

Once you get the V8, you will have to re-think the jetting as well as the Roller load in the vario to maximize the Super-Fine Drive Feeling.

Sorry for being b i tchy ..

its like this 48mm bbk

24mm oko

polini varitor with 7.0 grams

and omg i would never touch that old lady Elsinore pipe she pretty the way she is ..

Greetings:

Without the stock pipe holding 'er back, the engine will want to SING a much higher note. Higher RPM means the jetting has to deliver more fuel, and the variator load needs to go down a few Total grams to keep the engine on-key. Changing from 7s to 6.5s can be too much of a jump sometimes.

Wheelman-111 wrote:Greetings:

Without the stock pipe holding 'er back, the engine will want to SING a much higher note. Higher RPM means the jetting has to deliver more fuel, and the variator load needs to go down a few Total grams to keep the engine on-key. Changing from 7s to 6.5s can be too much of a jump sometimes.

Ok so stock pipe is crap .. lol and so should i just by the roller kit that comes with 4 - 13 grams so i can mix and match ..\

What weight do u have wheel man ..

Greetings:


The stock pipe isn't "crap", it just doesn't perform like a V8. Sure is a good bit quieter however, and you may come to find the noise annoying. I mean, all that smoke and sound and drama to go like 55 MPH? The stock pipe is good for 50 at least with a BBK. *, 49cc Flash 3.0 went 49 with only belt mods and 9:1 gears added. Sometimes discretion is better.

The Corsa liked 30.5 grams working against a Polini 1,200 Spring. The M'Arn can't sing Soprano and I bumped up in 2 stages to my current 36 grams. I may need to go up again to 38 to fully utilize the low end of the Iron cylinder - it still feels a bit "wheezy" on top.

By all means use the Mixing Rollers to find the sweetest combo but you won't be able to run them for long as they wear out quickly. However once you know the weights to buy, seek some quality items like Polini, Daytona, Malossi etc. and enjoy them for a long time. Or until you change another component...

Use a stone to round off the sharp edge of the ramp plate to decrease flat-spotting considerably.

Yea dude for sure im going to beat the s hit out of this kit. and then step it up and go all polini
Cost alot to go fast.

So does a aftermarket clutch and spring kit help. ?