motor swap posibilities???

Does your Spree/Elite already run great, and you're trying to make it quicker/faster? Need a monster motor swap? Discuss your ideas here.

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motor swap posibilities???

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I have 89 elite and was wondering what engine swap options other than the dio motor there are out there, I only want to reach about 45-50 mph if possible. Any input would be much appreciated!!
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so you have a af05e and you want something faster but dont want a af16/af18 or a clone.

nothing will get you there for 50cc's

if you can weld and fabricate anything can fit, so what ever is cheap is a good option ( again, only if you can weld)

have you considered a big bore kit and new intake for your old engine?
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Yea but for the price of those, I wanted to try to find something with a variator
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How much would the bbk and carb get me realisticly
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your scooter now doesnt have a variator? something smells fishy. go out to your bike and read the engine code ( its on the clutch cover side, right above the wheel, engraved in the engine case itself)

sounds like you have the elite thats not really an elite but a modern spree.

if thats the case the af05e engine would be an upgrade. they are for sale all the time and go for about 200-250 shipped
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The Elite E (SB50) was in production in '89 and has what is essentially a spree motor.

If you don't want to swap a AF16 onto it because of costs you should be able to scoop up a variated af05 for less (although the prices I've seen on the forum lately seem to say otherwise). Getting to 50mph with this would be tricky, but 45mph is very doable.
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af05e's are one of those things where if you want it you will pay $$$$$ but if you dont care to much about it, then someone will give you one for free.

buy a af05e they are in 85-87 aero 50s 87-93 elites50's
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i might have one for cheaper if you really can't find one. i live in oregon however so thats a long trip for a square box.

once you spend $$$$$ on upgrading the af05e.... you might find that it was cheaper to just wait patiently for a af16e(dio) motor.
ive never had a af16 but im waiting patiently to get one.

once you feel the sting of buying a leovince, and then read how dio's hit 50 with only gear mods. you learn to live with waiting

if you cant wait and you find a af05e, $185 redeft bbk shipped and a leovince pipe 100-200 shipped should have you where you want to be.

if you have $400 to spend and let people know it, i think you might get a few pms with dio motors.

or.... 200 for a af05e +185 for the bbk then +150........ on a good day you have now spent over 500.... to be slower than the motor that everyone wants and sometimes goes for 250


now that i have said this alot of pro spree people might hop in and tell me im gross and to read that name of this website...... but i wish someone had told me what i told you last year.
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I can't even find a Leovince pipe for what I have now, lol
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well you wouldnt want a leovince pipe for what you have now........

to put it nicely, if speed if your concern , your engine sucks
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and i got blasted for telling people to not waste money on a spree motor if you wanna go fast .The statement is Dude swap in a dio!!
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Haha ok sounds good sounds like I'm saving for a dio motors, thanks guys for all the input
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