Honda Spree and Elite 50 Forums

Hello,

I've had my honda spree now for a while and need some help/advice to get it running as it once was!

Basically I took it to a mechanic about a year ago and he simply put a new starter in etc. It worked for a while after, but now it will NOT turn over. I've rebuilt and cleaned the carb and engine heads as well as replaced all the fuel lines. It could be the fuel pump because iam seeing NO gas go threw the lines when I start it over, but has does come out when i suck on one line.

Could someone please help me!

The valve on the tank is an auto shut off. It needs a vacuume source to open the valve to let gas through. Are you getting spark? When you say wont turnover do you mean the starter wont crank the motor or that it turns the motor but wont fire?

Ok how can I repair my gas valve on my tank so it gets suction to get the has to flow? Yes iam getting a spark. No the starter cranks the fan/pistion but the engine just wont start.

Thanks for a the reply!

I believe i have found the problem, it the fuel pump. I have a clogged or broken gas jet. But the oil line flows smoothly.....

You mean its a clogged jet in the carb? Sprees dont have a fuel pump. It is a gravity system.

I though the spree used a vaccume line to suck the gas? Well the thing im looking at it, is to the left od the carb, it has an oil line going to it, and another line from the carb to it.....

No, the valve just opens when vaccum is applied to it. It just opens the gas line.

Try sucking on the vaccum line with the other line hooked up to the carb still. That should fill the fuel bowl in the carb. Now try starting it. If it still doesnt start then your problem lies somewhere else.

ok thank, if it works and or doesnt work, ill post here again!

Edit:

I;ve tried sucking on the vaccume line before (underneath the petcock) and only small amount of gas come out.

Could one of the reasons that its not starting is that the throttle it stuck?

wait, the pump on the crankcase??!! that goes to the intake manifold (lower nipple) not the carb.

The pump on the crank case is the oil pump. Try opening up the float drain and see if gas flows.(the bottom screw on the carb)

ben wrote:I;ve tried sucking on the vaccume line before (underneath the petcock) and only small amount of gas come out.

Could one of the reasons that its not starting is that the throttle it stuck?

You're bike may be running the bowl out if the gas supply can't keep up with usage. You haven't mentioned the condition of the tank; the in-tank filter may be plugged. Drain the tank and remove the petcock to check the in-tank filter. If you can't remove it, clean the tank per procedure in tech docs.

For reference, the bowl should fill in about 10-15 seconds from empty when vacuum is applied.

You are filling the carb up with gas before trying to start the bike, right? Mine needs to be refilled if it's let set for more than 2 weeks.

Well i've already drained the gas tank and the gas wasnt in the best condition (it was stale and a brown color) so I then removed the petcock and checked if anything was clogged but it was ok. Could someone please take some pics of there carb/fuel lines/oil pump, so i can show where i think the problems lies!

Thanks!

If you're only getting a few drops of gas when you suck on the vaccum line then it sounds like the petcock is bad (the fuel valve)

If you get a good stream then its probably ok.


Why couldnt Honda just give us a manual fuel shut off and manual choke? It would be SO much easier.

Ok how do you recomend i clean the petcock? Air? Or is there some solution I can put it in?

Check in the technical docs section. I havent tried cleaning one