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stock fast pipe, stock slow pipe?

Posted: Mon Apr 16, 2007 1:25 am
by hemlockz
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My SE50 came with the pipe above on top, it did not have a washer and was not an iowa model. It just had a skinny pipe all the way down to the muffler. Supposedly some states had a stock fast pipe for the SE50, like in the picture on the bottom.

Posted: Mon Apr 16, 2007 1:54 am
by islandbayy
Top one almost looks like a Spree muffler.

Posted: Mon Apr 16, 2007 8:49 am
by HuskieMobileMan
Mine looked like the one on the bottom.

Posted: Mon Apr 16, 2007 8:40 pm
by noiseguy
Interesting... what's the outer diameter of the pipe at the muffler, and the inner diameter at the jug for the bottom pipe?

I'll betcha the top pipe ID is 19mm.... that's what the Spree is. 25mm is a better size for a 50cc.

Posted: Tue Apr 17, 2007 2:43 pm
by hemlockz
I got it from this page, they try to explain it... http://www.scootertherapy.com/headpipepage.html I have the muffler on top with the skinny pipe that came on my 87 SE50. Then just yesterday I bid on a pipe on Ebay that said it was also from an 87 SE50 but looks like the pipe on the bottom. http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayI ... 0061296392

Very soon I will have both styles in my posession and will measure them.

Posted: Tue Apr 17, 2007 3:43 pm
by MySpree
that isnt from an se50, se50s have a 45 degree exhaust flange

Posted: Tue Apr 17, 2007 4:26 pm
by hemlockz
MySpree wrote:that isnt from an se50, se50s have a 45 degree exhaust flange
Thats not really the point... SE50 is just what I have, and the picture above is not mine. It was taken from the website referenced above.

What I am trying to say is that my se50 has the skinny pipe, and the ebay auction for an SE50 has the fast pipe, or what appears to be.

Posted: Tue Apr 17, 2007 5:03 pm
by MySpree
i noticed that but i th ought i was crazy, my aero had a big pipe like that before it cracked. and now i have a small skinny pipe.

Posted: Tue Apr 17, 2007 7:41 pm
by hemlockz
MySpree wrote:i noticed that but i th ought i was crazy, my aero had a big pipe like that before it cracked. and now i have a small skinny pipe.
Did you notice any difference between the two pipe, or did you have a different setup besides just changing the pipes?

Posted: Wed Apr 18, 2007 3:15 pm
by MySpree
well, i did have more accel and i had more speed i could go 45 stock, and then i got a new pipe and i went 35 and 39 with wind...

Posted: Wed Apr 18, 2007 3:44 pm
by noiseguy
I'm wondering if we wouldn't get some good gains by creating a downpipe with a 25mm ID to replace the stock downpipe on an otherwise stock muffler assembly. I don't have access to a 1" pipe bender (or any other bender for that matter,) or I'd weld one together myself.

Posted: Wed Apr 18, 2007 8:20 pm
by MySpree
lemme see what i can dig up, i have a pipe bender at my dads work, so if it will bend it, then ill make some pipe downtubes. and then maby i can make bigger downtubes for you noiseguy and you can make even better pipes... if your interested,

Posted: Wed Apr 18, 2007 10:21 pm
by DELETED
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Posted: Thu Apr 19, 2007 3:40 pm
by MySpree
OK who is this little s*** that is comeing around? Speedkills? Noiseguy talk to this kid. #1 most people on this sites mopeds dont go over 35, IF THAT, and my slowest moped goes 55, Yet im slow? ME What do you have? what BS do you have on your moped.

Posted: Thu Apr 19, 2007 5:46 pm
by hemlockz
speedkills wrote:Hey myspree, it seems you own all slow scoots, when will you afford to buy some real speed or even know how to build basic speed :x
Hey, why don't you enlighten us on building basic speed... since you already left a steamy coil on my thread its the least you could do.