Honda Spree and Elite 50 Forums

Heres a pic of my 94 elite w/a ram air.
This can be done from a variety of material...I am going to redo mine soon with a black plastic!
This does help keep it cool and guards against heat seize which can accur @ full throttle!

what is "heat seize" cuz i think that happen to me...

all my air cooling stuff was off because i thought i was going for a short ride after getting it fixed , the next morning i rode it all day with the stuff still off

after riding about 12 miles at full throttle, it started to bog really bad and slowed to like 10-15, i came to a stop at witch point it died, i had to leaving it locked to a tree on a side of a road over night.

i got it in the morning with a trailer back to my house but i cant get it to start, think this might of happen to me?
(92 honda elite 49cc )

Generally it occurs with a new "bigger bore topend rebuild" it occurs because of too much heat generated and not properly broken in yet! (450 miles or so).
The best way I can generally describe it is, it's like someone hit the kill switch, but when you coast to a stop it usually will start.
Do it too many times and you will damage the piston, rings, and cylinder possibly. Never..EVER ride the bike without the fan and shroud in place! The head is enclosed inside the plastic and cannot get any air like say a dirt bike, even with the plastic removed in front of the cyl it still cant get enough air!
Cooling is very important to say the least!

Dac wrote:what is "heat seize" cuz i think that happen to me...

all my air cooling stuff was off because i thought i was going for a short ride after getting it fixed , the next morning i rode it all day with the stuff still off

after riding about 12 miles at full throttle, it started to bog really bad and slowed to like 10-15, i came to a stop at witch point it died, i had to leaving it locked to a tree on a side of a road over night.

i got it in the morning with a trailer back to my house but i cant get it to start, think this might of happen to me?
(92 honda elite 49cc )

Not smart.

ok i seen the new pictures in the first post ,if i can get mine running im going to do something like that
well know you all know im a dumb**** any idea what ease might have happen?

You most likely just need a top end rebuild brother....rings, maybe a piston.....hone the cylinder,assemble parts with a coating of gn2, check the crank bearing, pin bearing,oiler, and use honda gn2 NEVER let the injector run empty!
Break in and keep cool!

i agree with C R. check the compression. at least it will give u some idea what going on.

A shop in Daytona sold those intake scoops before they went belly up and the only way to know if it cools better is to install a cht-temp guage and play with hot/cold spark plugs.

No...it's not the only way to know!
Think outside the box.....

Could you do this same thing to a unmodded Elite ES? And instead of drilling new holes to mount the screws can you just use the screws already holding the extended air ring thing?

crotchrocket, without a gear change y-r-lucky to get to 50mph so give us some more crap you just can't BS me. HA! HA!

stillspeeding wrote:crotchrocket, without a gear change y-r-lucky to get to 50mph so give us some more crap you just can't BS me. HA! HA!

More information, less smack talk...

stillspeeding wrote:crotchrocket, without a gear change y-r-lucky to get to 50mph so give us some more crap you just can't BS me. HA! HA!

I am able to do around 50-53mph without a gear change...Confirmed with several car speedometers.

Stillspeeding......

How drunk did u need to get to write that?

59 MPH confirmed level terrain car speedo !
EVERYONE please post and be the judge!
HA HA HA HA HA HA

Jeremydde confirms 53 mph with nearly the same setup....you lose!
Send $100 to noiseguy and I will make a video w/ a car speedo for proof moron!

thanks for the idea, i need to get my parts in and finish my moped
i give you full credit, i was playing with a can of air ( key bored cleaner air can) i can tell this is really going to work good