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won't start
Posted: Sun Sep 09, 2007 10:30 pm
by gsemack
I just got an 84 spree. I am ready to just smack it with a hammer a couple hundred times. This is my problem. My battery is charged. It will will crank but wont turn over. I cleaned out the carb and changed the plug checked the resistance on the bystarter which was 4.7 checked the flow of the fuel valve. set the carb to what the manual said to 1 7/8 out and it just seems that there is nothing. But i do spray some starter fluid in the carb and voom it starts and the quickly dies. I checked the spark and to be quite honest i don't know what a weak spark looks like. It looks like a dim flicker. thats with the new plug the old one i couldn't see anything. so please help My daughter is waiting for her new toy and her dad is ready to quit.
Posted: Sun Sep 09, 2007 11:01 pm
by edjo
I had a very similar situation. Check the cylinder for compression, the rings may be shot. If your compression is good its probably the reed valves. Compression should be 110 or more. Good luck, Ed
Posted: Mon Sep 10, 2007 10:13 am
by Dac
compression dont have to be that high. a good way to check is to remove the spark plug and put some oil in the hole(about a cap full or so) and kick it about 5 times with the spark plug out, put spark plug in and see if it starts.
if it does its more the likely the rings, it if does check the reed valve for a gap
Posted: Mon Sep 10, 2007 2:37 pm
by gsemack
I tried the oil in the head and nothing happening i put gas directly into the carb thru the air intake on the carb would start and idle but would soon die. help
Posted: Mon Sep 10, 2007 5:05 pm
by hondaman
Try turning your drain screw out on the carburetor and see if gas comes out. Tell us what happens and we will go from there.
Posted: Mon Sep 10, 2007 7:44 pm
by gsemack
yes i did and gas pours out. i got it to idle for about 2 mins but then clunked out. that was after a friend of mine told me to pour some gas right in the carb i did thru the air intake opening.
Posted: Mon Sep 10, 2007 8:19 pm
by hondaman
Now the question is does the gas eventually stop coming out of the drain opening or does it just keep coming out and would not stop until the tank is empty? If so your vacuum valve is stuck open and is probably causing your carb to flood out.
Posted: Mon Sep 10, 2007 11:12 pm
by gsemack
will it stop or keep going?
Posted: Tue Sep 11, 2007 5:12 am
by hondaman
The gas should stop draining out after a little while until just your carburetor is empty of gas. If gas just keeps coming out of the drain opening and will not stop even after you feel the carburetor should have been empty by then, you have a problem. Gas is only supposed to be allowed to enter the carb when the engine is running. It works on a vacuum through your vacuum tube and gas valve.
Posted: Tue Sep 11, 2007 8:58 am
by gsemack
turned screw gas ran out then stopped. what next do i do?
Posted: Tue Sep 11, 2007 5:58 pm
by gsemack
ANYONE GOT ANY IDEA???????
Posted: Tue Sep 11, 2007 6:03 pm
by Kenny_McCormic
clean the carb again just run it ( I put 100miles and at least 6 carb cleanings on mine before it ran right)
Posted: Tue Sep 11, 2007 6:11 pm
by edjo
HAVE YOU CHECKED THE REED VALVES???????????????
Posted: Tue Sep 11, 2007 11:10 pm
by gsemack
iT WONT STAY RUNNING. I CHECKED THE REED VALVE TO BE HONEST I DONT KNOW WHAT LOOKS GOOD OR BAD. SO REALLY I DONT KNOW.
Posted: Tue Sep 11, 2007 11:11 pm
by gsemack
KENNY I CANT EVEN RIDE IT TO PUT ANYTHING ON IT. IT WONT STAY RUNNING AND IT IS SO HARD TO TURN OVER