More Speed and Flat spots on roller

pattersondm · Post by **pattersondm** » Tue Oct 16, 2007 12:34 am

Hello again,

Honda elite 1997

So a couple weeks ago I took off the pulley and removed the plate that restricted the top speed of the moped. While the crank case was off and the pulley was off I looked at the rollers. It appeared that the rollers have flat spots on them from wear and tear. Should I replace these with new onces? What benefits would this give me? It does seem while riding right now it loses it acceleration for a 1/2 second around 25 mph then picks right back up to ~35.

here is a bad picture of the rollers. http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v694/ ... img093.jpg

Second question, I am looking for more power mods I can perform on this moped with out breaking the bank. Here is what I have done to date. Bored out exhaust on header side, removed restricter plate on pulley. I do have some hills in my area and do all my riding in down town Grand Rapids MI (city diving). So it would be nice to have good top end but also not lose the low end take off for dealing with traffic. Can I change the CDI, pulleys, gears, exhaust? What is the first or best combination for bang for your buck. I don't mind reading up on things just point me in the right direction if you would.

Thanks for all your help,
Devin

Dac · Post by **Dac** » Tue Oct 16, 2007 8:21 am

a HP Variator, and a gear change (9:1)
from what i hear its about 100$ and will give you a much higher speed (close to 50, or higher if tuned.)

also you might want to drill a few holes in the air box to help the air flow. { if you drill the air box or/and bore the pipe you need to rejet. upjet one or two.
getting more flow you are running leaner, running lean you will burn up your motor. upgetting will put it back to normal.

Flat spots on rollers means it time to replace them, its not a big deal but it makes your take off choppy. after market rollers get flat spots fast, honda OEM is the longest lasting.

pattersondm · Post by **pattersondm** » Tue Oct 16, 2007 10:42 pm

Thanks Dac, Where can I find information about these mods. I did a search and see many people mention the 9:1 but didn't see any real details on how it is done or what I need to buy. Also, where can I buy a HP variator and what is is. I guess same question as above any other information is greatly appreciated.

thanks,
Devin

nate_lohs · Post by **nate_lohs** » Tue Oct 16, 2007 10:51 pm

50mph with a variator and 9:1 gearing? thats pretty good. i doubt i have much more than that with a 72cc bore and 8.4:1 gearing. do you happen to know what the top speed of 8.4:1 gear should be?

darat · Post by **darat** » Tue Oct 16, 2007 11:42 pm

u can do alot with that year. just get a high speed pulley kit and a bore kit and some carb tuning and it will fly.

pattersondm · Post by **pattersondm** » Wed Oct 17, 2007 1:49 am

Still looking on info on how much speed a new variator will give me. Also, would the OKO Hi-Speed Pulley Kit Complete w/ 9g Rollers for $45.00 from VT cycles be a the correct variator?

Also, what else could I do that would be best bang for my buck with out having to remove the engine.

Thanks,
Devin

tru72 · Post by **tru72** » Tue Oct 23, 2007 6:45 pm

flat weights are caused most times from debris or just old worn out parts. Stock Dio motor has 8.5 grams in them. im pretty sure that variator kit has 8.5s in them. Did you try removing your restrictor plate from behind the variator? that alone will give you speed. As for your motor, look on the back of it, somewhere by the gear oil plug you wil find some numbers. What you are looking for is "AF16" thats considered a dio motor..
aloha
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MySpree · Post by **MySpree** » Tue Oct 23, 2007 8:42 pm

DONT DRILL YOUR AIR BOX! dac, i just want to say, drilling your airbox, and up jetting causes more problems on a stock unrestricted elite then it helps. mine was doing 50 with the airbox not drilled, i drilled it and had nothing but problems until i was on a big bore, or until i ported the carb. jets did nothing.

pattersondm · Post by **pattersondm** » Wed Oct 24, 2007 12:31 am

tru72 wrote:flat weights are caused most times from debris or just old worn out parts. Stock Dio motor has 8.5 grams in them. im pretty sure that variator kit has 8.5s in them. Did you try removing your restrictor plate from behind the variator? that alone will give you speed. As for your motor, look on the back of it, somewhere by the gear oil plug you wil find some numbers. What you are looking for is "AF16" thats considered a dio motor..
aloha
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I have removed the restrictor plate and the moped currently does about 37mph. I would like 45 and would love 50. If I can get 50 I can take this baby anywhere in town. I will look for the model this week some time when I get a chance.

Thanks,
Devin

tru72 · Post by **tru72** » Wed Oct 24, 2007 5:58 am

lol with a little exhaust porting you could get to 50
try and fool with your weights, they can make or break yo uin your quest for speed!
aloha
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darat · Post by **darat** » Wed Oct 24, 2007 7:29 am

get the pulley kit and u will bury that speedo so fast.. i got that for mine and it brought it to life.

stillspeeding · Post by **stillspeeding** » Thu Oct 25, 2007 2:48 am

Hey darat, no way in * will you pin the speedo on a stock -s engine

i must be 22 yrs ahead of you kidz you just can't B.S. me at all

W/C · Post by **W/C** » Fri Nov 02, 2007 2:52 pm

stillspeeding wrote:Hey darat, no way in * will you pin the speedo on a stock -s engine i must be 22 yrs ahead of you kidz you just can't B.S. me at all

I did my friends one, stock bore carb etc, no gears, only pulley and clutch.
Why dont you stop with all the negative comments,if your not gonna help dont bother responding, trying to discuss something is one thing, but why dont you get on your dragster and go ride somewhere ?

MySpree · Post by **MySpree** » Sun Nov 04, 2007 10:28 am

and also, darat has a se50, no elite s, those things are faster stock buddy.

stillspeeding · Post by **stillspeeding** » Thu Dec 06, 2007 1:01 am

This vidio is for both of you punks- www.pmtuning.co.uk click on news then clik on the 11.90 1/4 mi. record, funny thing is my pro street aero will smoke this guy only i need wheelie bars, we were banned by the n.h.r.a. 15 yrs ago for to much speed, now thats fast