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Finally got everything i needed for my spree... or so i thought. I put it all together and started to fill it up with gas and then i noticed the liquid gold was pouring out the overflow on the carb as fast as i could pour it in which is a sickening feeling. I figured it was the petcock since the vacuum tube has been capped off since i got it, although it was working fine last year just like that. So, i just wanted to make sure that i didn't put something back together wrong in the carb, or does everyone think its def. the petcock?

Make sure the bottom screw on the carb (the drain) is closed all the way. If it is, and you're still having problems, check the float and valve operation. The float valve, when closed, should generally prevent gas from overfilling the bowl.

-aseigler

It's the fuel valve. I have had some that work with a free flowing fuel valve, but they always start pouring out the overflow at random times. I have changed the fuel valve and the leaking carbs no longer leak out the overflow.

While i was mowing today i thought about it and decided that it couldn't be the fuel valve. What i thought was the overflow is really just the drain. Does the carb even have an overflow? When i got home it took me 2 seconds of looking at the scooter to realize the screw wasn't all the way in. I always figured that it drained out around the screw when it was too loose, i didn't know it would go out the tube, but lesson learned i guess. I didn't have much time to mess with it so i'll try to get it running tomorrow. It needs a new battery and i didn't feel like trying to kick a motor that hasn't ran since last fall. Although i did try it a few times and it fired and ran for maybe a second which gives me high hopes.

If it fired when you kicked it, you should be able to get it to start with little to no trouble. Try opening the throttle wide open and kicking once or twice, then if it doesn't start back off the throttle a little bit and kick it again. Keep doing that until it starts, and once it does, try to keep it running for at least a couple of minutes to get everything flowing, and you'll be fine from there.

-aseigler

The fuel valve can leak into the intake or run full flow, both of which can cause problems. There is an overflow on the carb as well as a screw to drain the bowl, they are separate.

The carb has a float and needle on it for a reason, to stop as flow when its full.

So i took Charlotte's advice and tried cranking it some and it didn't fire. So i took the spark plug out and it was covered in oil so i cleaned it off, put it back in and tried cranking it some more, and... IT RUNS! And it runs good too. I let it run and burn off the excess oil while it idled outside my garage and then took it for a spin down the road without the front fairing or the side plastics and it did 30 up a slight uphill. I'm 6'0" 210lbs so i was very happy with that result. Honestly i never got to do a top speed run because i still don't have any rear brakes and i'm not entirely sure whats wrong with them either . But it doesn't misfire when i get to 25 like it used to so thats a plus lol. It didn't even misfire between 30-35 when i was coming back home. I really wanted to open it up but i'm not taking it too far until i get the plastic back on and the brakes working for obvious safety reasons. Thanks for all the advice from everyone, and for the parts uspmale!

35!?! you might wanna check your plug just to be sure it isnt leaning out.

It never really made it to 35 because i was scared to let it. With only front brakes and a short road i was really limited. I'm going to buy a new plug and do a plug chop tomorrow hopefully. I wish i would have when i was through but i was excited and wasn't necessarily worried about it lol. It is necessary to have a new one isn't it?

I went ahead and pulled the plug just because i was curious. One side of the insulator is telling me i'm perfect (dry, coco brown color),but the opposite side is telling me i'm wrong(still perfectly white). I'm not extremely concerned about it right now because there is still a few things to work out. One of which is the reason why i feel a little electricity coming through the left brake handle lol. I'm sure thats just because of the loose wires that i still have though. So far i'm very pleased with the rebuild.

Yea, check that out with a new plug.