Honda Spree and Elite 50 Forums

Why wont the front variator pulley of a dio or other, fit in a spree?

The crankshaft has a different profile.

Clive.

bigger or smaller?

Its all different, best way would be to design and machine a new one, several have discussed this, none have attempted yet.

SOMEBODY DO IT!!!!!!!

What about the elites that basically have spree engines?

Don't they have variable pulleys? And if so, shouldn't the crank fit in a spree engine?

devenex wrote:What about the elites that basically have spree engines?

Don't they have variable pulleys? And if so, shouldn't the crank fit in a spree engine?

oh dude! the Pal!

i totally forgot about that.

dude, someone just has to tear apart a pal variator and see if it will fit in a spree. if it dose, thats going to break some huge ground.

BTDT, I've got a Pal and a Spree both. The Pal pulley doesn't fit the Spree. The crankshaft end is different. If you could find an entire Pal engine it should bolt right in.

I haven't torn them apart to mix and match the parts but I think the crankshaft and the side cover would need to be swapped.

The Pal is still a moped class scooter, 25-30 mph top end. What the variable pulley gets you is more pull off the line.

keithw

Well if you get more pull off the line, then you can do a pulley mod and have a more normal pull at the start with a higher top end, right?

EDIT: Granted your not going to hit 50mph or anything, but you should approach 35mph, which actually makes a difference going around town.

devenex wrote:Well if you get more pull off the line, then you can do a pulley mod and have a more normal pull at the start with a higher top end, right?

EDIT: Granted your not going to hit 50mph or anything, but you should approach 35mph, which actually makes a difference going around town.

yeah but if it requires to tear apart the block, get a new crank and a pulley for a bike that is hard to find, why not just get a good motor and build that up.

i mean, dont get me wrong im all about making the spree faster, but thats just unrealistic.

devenex wrote:Well if you get more pull off the line, then you can do a pulley mod and have a more normal pull at the start with a higher top end, right?

EDIT: Granted your not going to hit 50mph or anything, but you should approach 35mph, which actually makes a difference going around town.

Yes, I modified the pulley on my Pal. With that and the engine mods I have seen 45 mph. Normally about 40, still fiddling with it.

Just picked up a second Pal today. we'll see how that one goes.

keithw

do I really have to say it?

if you're going to swap something into a spree, make it worthwhile and go dio

Unless you can find a PAL block dirt cheap, dio swap just makes more sense even for lower speeds.

Dio's are expensive

Pals are miserably hard to find as they are JDM and only a hand full ever came to the states.

keithw

keithw wrote:Pals are miserably hard to find as they are JDM and only a hand full ever came to the states.

keithw

yeah, finding a Pal would be harder then finding a dio by a long shot.

BTW Keithw, if you where ever to part out one of your pals you could sell the plastic alone for a good amount of money on the hawaii forums. i have seen a full pal body set go before and it was a few hundred.