Would this work?

Aero Fifty · Post by **Aero Fifty** » Fri Oct 24, 2008 1:50 pm

I have a 85 Aero 50 and is suffering from some cold start problems. I'm pretty sure the bystarter is bad because if you manually choke the engine (cover the air intake) it'll start right up. A bystarter costs about $50 bucks and I see some manual choke carbs on eBay for around $30 bucks. Can I just throw one of these carbs on my aero and run it?

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymot........itemZ220294908128

*also will I get any performance gains from running a larger carb?

Bear45-70 · Post by **Bear45-70** » Fri Oct 24, 2008 2:36 pm

Can you run the other carb? Yes. Will it give you any performance gains? Not likely. In fact over carburation (too big a carb) is the biggest hop up mistake made and usually causes a loss of performance, especially low in performance which is where these scoots suffer the worst to start with.

Clivester · Post by **Clivester** » Fri Oct 24, 2008 2:44 pm

The problem with those carbs is that they are chinese (mainland) clones and quality is an issue. They are typically nowhere near as reliable as the Keihins used by Honda.

Tuners typically use flatslide Mikunis, Keihins (the real ones), or OKOs, but then they require a manifold change and are more expensive.

You're also going to have to mess with the jetting.

Clive.

Aero Fifty · Post by **Aero Fifty** » Fri Oct 24, 2008 2:57 pm

Any idea how big the stock Aero carb is? I really would just like to ditch the auto bystarter all together and go with a simple manual choke. The auction I linked to was for a 24mm Mikuni carb. Also I was planning to install a big bore kit in the future and was wondering what size carbs are you guys running with a big bore kit?

Clivester · Post by **Clivester** » Fri Oct 24, 2008 5:59 pm

Aero Fifty wrote:The auction I linked to was for a 24mm Mikuni carb.

Despite what is molded onto the carb body I still maintain that it is made in mainland china, so you have my warning.

Stock engines are usually replaced with a 19mm carb, big bores with 21 or 24mm, and strokers with 28 to 30mm.

I think the original was 17mm, but not sure.

Clive.

veedubh20 · Post by **veedubh20** » Sat Oct 25, 2008 12:36 am

dont buy china -made carb used less!

if you like a good runnin carb!! buy real Dellorto phbg, Keihin pwk carb and mikuni vm 18mm. How that.

cant go wrong on anytime.

you better off buy a dio moto and slap in

not aero 50 or 87 motor.

scooterwerx · Post by **scooterwerx** » Sun Oct 26, 2008 1:58 am

hmmm a genuine mikuni for 31$? im skeptical
please dont buy garbage china carbs from ebay. they are garbage. they are made out of god knows what kind of terrible pot metal, the seals are frail and dont really seal, and their manufacturing process must involve some sort of antique circus equipment, because its a joke. i learned my lesson the hard way! they are not even worth the low low price. if you really want one, i will give you mine. im serious. www.50cc.eu has all sorts of carbs for very good prices, i got a 21mm arreche for 130 bucks. the china carb leaked, ran inconsistently, never started well. 21mm arreche fires up everytime, fisrt try, runs like a scalded dog....i guess you get what you pay for.

scooterwerx · Post by **scooterwerx** » Sun Oct 26, 2008 2:06 am

oh yeah...the stock aero carb is tiny, the bore is oval shaped somewhere around 14X17 or so mm. actual flow area is probably around 16mm or so, just a guess from eyeballing it. its plenty for a stock 50. i have a 21mm on my 65cc cylinder with extensive porting.

evilone · Post by **evilone** » Sun Oct 26, 2008 7:55 pm

On the website www.50cc.eu I see the Dio and EliteLX listed under Honda. Is the EliteLX an SE50 by chance?

Dac · Post by **Dac** » Sun Oct 26, 2008 8:14 pm

88-93 SA50 elites.
aka Elite Lx/Elite Sr

It also has the same motor as the SE50.

evilone · Post by **evilone** » Sun Oct 26, 2008 8:17 pm

So I can get a performance muffler AND bigger carb?

Dac · Post by **Dac** » Sun Oct 26, 2008 8:19 pm

most web shops are very outdated. Those also in Europe. But if they still have all that stuff, they ship, and the prices in USD isnt bad, you could get a carb, exhaust, bore kit, gears (look they have gears listed too)

evilone · Post by **evilone** » Sun Oct 26, 2008 8:24 pm

Yeah, I saw the gears and 70cc bore kits.

scooterwerx · Post by **scooterwerx** » Tue Oct 28, 2008 3:16 am

50cc.eu is badass! i ordered a carb from them and it was here in less than a week! their website is very current, and the guy who runs it, marcel dekker, is a nice dude. they have all sorts of stuff for nb50/se50, just look up honda vision....

Dac · Post by **Dac** » Tue Oct 28, 2008 4:00 am

scooterwerx wrote:50cc.eu is badass! i ordered a carb from them and it was here in less than a week! their website is very current, and the guy who runs it, marcel dekker, is a nice dude. they have all sorts of stuff for nb50/se50, just look up honda vision....

NO S***?!?!?!?!

DUDE! thats awesome!

because that place has pipes, gears, bore kits, and all sorts of stuff for the SE50. Where are you located ScooterWerx? How much was your order?