Honda Spree and Elite 50 Forums

Ok, First off I'm new here. So, hello!

My questions are as follows, I've had my honda elite for like 4 months now. For 3 of them the thing was in shambles dead battery, flattened rear tire, broken starter, the thing hardly ran. But now that I got it running at 35mph (which it only went 28mph after little fixing) I was wondering how fast I can get this thing to go? What parts I'd need to get it to do at least 45+mph? If even possible.

I've looked around at some parts sites. And I can't find much. I've talked to a few dealers and they have told me that not a lot will fit the 88 elite I have. I've checked the engine. And it is an SA50. So shouldn't SA50 parts fit? Or is there some diffrences in the newer models of the elite??

I'd hate to have this thing stuck at 35mph. Makes me sad. LOL!

Plus I live in Texas and the speed limits here are just suggestive. 40mph really means 50mph.

Greetings:

I was where you are now in October. I'm also in Texas. Read all you can in Technical Help and Performance Technical.

Your 88 Elite sounds like a good and worthy project. My '87 aero and all SA 50s through 1993 have the same basic drive train, designated AF05E. Stuff made for the 1994-later engine designation AF16E will not fit yours.
Check out DayWOT Stores on eBay. He may have a Polini 47mm (=65cc)piston/cylinder kit or 2 left. Legend has it that Malossi also made a kit, but they are a rare find. Stroker cranks, if they ever existed for this model, are quite a bit of trouble and downtime, so 65 is as big as it gets for us.

With 65 kit alone, 40+ is ridiculously easy. From there you de-restrict intake and outlet sides and add fuel through bigger main jet. Once the power is there, you can add gearing to exploit it. Several ways to do that, like 3.5" tires, HighSpeed Variator, and if you can find Malossi gearset. I can get mine to 50 and it's not done yet.

You're welcome to ask me any specific questions you like. Scooterwerx BurntToast and ChevyGuyJay have been particularly helpful to me, among others. You will get a lot of "dude, just swap in Dio..." advice from ScooterSnobs. Ignore them and build whatcha got. Topping at 55 is fast enough with these wheels, licorice string frame, and - especially -brakes.

A aftermarket front pulley kit will get you around 5 mph.

dude, just swap in Dio!! But seriously i got my SE50 to 45-48 and it gets to speed pretty quick without a big bore kit. I also got alot of info from chevyguyjay and have close to but not identical setup. Feel free to pm.

dio motor will drop into your 88 sa50.

My 87 SE50 does 45 on a good run.

All I did was throw the motor into the bushes and put on a dio motor

808BMW wrote:My 87 SE50 does 45 on a good run.

All I did was throw the motor into the bushes and put on a dio motor

Dig it out of the bushes and I will put it to very good use.

hehe. Thanks for the little bit of help there. I have no idea whee to find a dio motor? But I think from what I saw this morning I have an AF15. Or maybe I'm just looking at something diffrent.

I have talked to the daywot guy on ebay. And he said their isn't much for the motors along the lines of bigger bore etc. But he was vague.

Also I looked up the deristrictions on the stock muffler but I can't seem to find any answer to where the * it is. A picture would be nice so I can remove the washer.

Also I was looking into a CDI. One of those jobs that derestrictes the rev limit. But havent seen much of what it exactly does. I dont want to buy it and have it blow my motor!!!

Muffler, if there is a washer its in the header, right where it bolts to the engine.

There is no rev limiter! Its designed to run WFO all day long.

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The mods of this site are waaaaaay better then I. I always fail compared to them.

^ wth.. is that all about above!

Anyway, I read from the scootertherapy place that its welded in the exhaust somewheres. And it needed to be removed to unrestrict flow.

I would amagine that the CDI would just give it a hotter spark or something. It probably wouldn't be a bad idea to change out the coil while I'm at it.

From what I've found on my Elite is that everything is pretty much bone stock (other than what I've done so far) So the sky's the limit I guess.

the aftermarket coils and cdi boxes are really only for replacement purposes, they dont really do anything better than the oem honda stuff. oem honda is pretty hard to beat when it comes to electronics. id leave all that and do the trans mods and a big bore, if you can score a pipe and carb, youll be hitting 60 no problem...

scooterwerx wrote:the aftermarket coils and cdi boxes are really only for replacement purposes, they dont really do anything better than the oem honda stuff. oem honda is pretty hard to beat when it comes to electronics. id leave all that and do the trans mods and a big bore, if you can score a pipe and carb, youll be hitting 60 no problem...

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