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Hey guys, i talked to vt cycles yesterday and they told me with my stock motor and keli variator that i would be best off with and get the best performance with 10:1 gears and that 9:1 gears would not be good and i would get the same top end on my stock motor with 10:1 gears opposed to 9:1 but they said they no longer carry 10:1 gears, any leads on 10:1 gears? and do you really think 9:1 is too much. i hear people on here using them with stock motors if i rememebr correctly, but someone also told me not to get them until i get a big bore which im not sure that i want at this time. i am ready to order new clutch springs from vt but was hoping to order gears at the same time, i really do not care as much about takeoff speed unless it is going to be real slow, but do not want to be dogging up hills because my gears are so tall. any advice or recommendations.

9:1 will do fine.

If your planning to upgrade to big bore later get the 9to1 but if your just staying with the stock bore get the 10to1.

daywot on ebay may have that ratio

quickfix cycles can get gears too, just ordered some gears from them
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i ran 9 to 1 gears for 27,000 mi. when i first bought my 94-s now i have 79,000 mi. and so dependable, if you use common sense and a few tricks of the trade

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79,000 mi. and so dependable, if you use common sense and a few tricks of the trade

If you're not willing to share your ultra-secret, special tricks of the trade, why exactly are you posting? Please, do tell.

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Wheelman-111 wrote: If you're not willing to share your ultra-secret, special tricks of the trade, why exactly are you posting? Please, do tell.

From what I've read, mostly using high-quality components from Japanese and European suppliers and making sure your jetting is right for your setup. Most guys I see with blowups here are cutting corners with cheap parts and/or they do a "bolt and go" without making sure things will work together.

Yep no reason a properly built, jetted, lubed, etc. motor cant run till the rings fall off the piston.

Thanks for the replies fellows, one person says 9:1 will work just fine, then someone else said do not go with 9:1 and go with 10:1 , it seems the 9:1 gears are readily available,i seen Daywot has 9.8 gears which are closest to 10:1 but says you only get like 2-3 mph increase which does not seem much. anyone else running a high speed variator with a stock motor and 9:1 gears? if so how is your speed throughout the range? just hoping to get a few more opinions before i order something i may regret getting because i think i will keep the stock bore for a while and do now want the bike dragging * all the way until it hits top speed and dogging up inclines.

just go 9:1 gear work fine on stock motor

they will actually be 9.2:1 and should be fine for stock bore, you may have to retune roller weights some but the gains will be worth it imo

gears + rollerpack should be under $100 and net about 50mph or almost and stocklike accel

Thanks guys, ill order the 9:1's then. i was going to order them through vtcycles because i talked to him and was going to get all the clutch springs as well, figured i would save the shipping and get it all at once, i know ill have to mess with the rollers but glad i got a few last suggestions, and thanks Kenny M.C. you were right off the start- i just wanted to get a few more replies.

9.1 Is great for a stock bike.
Highly recomended..plus they are there if you ever upgrade the motor.

I have them on my bike ('98 elite) with a keli vari.
Acceleration is still good..(my friends are surprised how zippy it is for a moped)

Stock weights and I run 45 mph no problem..With a tailwind I've almost buried the speedo needle on a few different occasions.(I weigh 170ish pounds.)

The only complaint I have is a slight bog in the 0-5 but after that its a-okay.
Dac had them to..he ran 45-50mph

Get the 9.1..you won't be disappointed

any of you guys looking to sell your stock S gears?
pm me if you are!