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Re: Need a quick help For my friends Honda Elite .
Posted: Thu Mar 29, 2012 3:04 am
by motormike
This orifice must be open to feed gas into the bystarter well. If not open, you have no fuel flowing into the enrichment circuit controlled by the bystarter. This is NOT the pilot jet. That orifice opens into the carb throat adjacent to the main jet needle.... 
...My best luck has always been carb-dipping(and soaking) into a product called Berrymans cleaner. The spray cans don't have the same effect, but are very effective in testing the flow of orifices once you get them open. Jet cleaners are only about $10 for a set that will fit the tiniest of holes, instead of guitar string.... 
....g'luck
Re: Need a quick help For my friends Honda Elite .
Posted: Thu Mar 29, 2012 1:14 pm
by Duke250
Thanks for the advices . Ill give that a try and you all know how it went .
Re: Need a quick help For my friends Honda Elite .
Posted: Fri Mar 30, 2012 1:58 pm
by Duke250
Trafficjamz you were right I didnt press the brake to E-start it .I just tried it and now I know its not my stater. Now it will only run for 15second if I choke it and then put the air box back on the carb. After 15 second it died . Any other suggestions what should I do .I think no gas is flowing to the engine . Thanks all
Re: Need a quick help For my friends Honda Elite .
Posted: Fri Mar 30, 2012 2:07 pm
by dun rite
check for correct functioning of the petcock
Re: Need a quick help For my friends Honda Elite .
Posted: Fri Mar 30, 2012 2:28 pm
by Duke250
I don't think it is my petcock because if i take the tube from the carb I have lots of gas coming out .Also I did change my petcock.I should have my compression tester tomorrow . I will try to run a test
Re: Need a quick help For my friends Honda Elite .
Posted: Fri Mar 30, 2012 2:35 pm
by dun rite
gas should not flow from the petcock unless vacuum is applied. But if fuel is flowing to the carb. Unscrew the float bowl drain screw and see if fuel flows out.
Re: Need a quick help For my friends Honda Elite .
Posted: Fri Mar 30, 2012 2:59 pm
by Duke250
I don't know I have allot of gas flowing from my tube if I disconnect it from my carb .I also have fuels flows out from my bowl drain screw. This is what my petcock looks like .
Re: Need a quick help For my friends Honda Elite .
Posted: Fri Mar 30, 2012 3:12 pm
by Duke250
One more thing I just notice that . I was looking in the manual and i just saw that I am missing something on the oil pump . I am missing a cable . How do I fix it ??????????
Re: Need a quick help For my friends Honda Elite .
Posted: Fri Mar 30, 2012 4:16 pm
by evilone
Duke250 wrote:One more thing I just notice that . I was looking in the manual and i just saw that I am missing something on the oil pump . I am missing a cable . How do I fix it ??????????
That's because you have the restricted SA50P model, it does not have one. The SA50 has a split cable.
Re:man I am about to give up on it .
Posted: Fri Mar 30, 2012 4:49 pm
by Duke250
so i don't have to worry about it ? Do I need to do something about it???? . Also I just change my petcock and it is still not running . It is only running for 15 second if I choke it .
Re: Need a quick help For my friends Honda Elite .
Posted: Fri Mar 30, 2012 5:36 pm
by Trafficjamz
Clean the pilot jet again
Re: Re:man I am about to give up on it .
Posted: Fri Mar 30, 2012 8:01 pm
by evilone
Duke250 wrote:so i don't have to worry about it ? Do I need to do something about it????
If you de-restrict it or if it is already de-restricted you should zip tie it open.
Re: Need a quick help For my friends Honda Elite .
Posted: Sun Apr 01, 2012 12:02 am
by Duke250
Just a quick help . i just got my compression tester kit today in the mail . I open it but not sure how to do a compression test on a moped . This is what my compression tester looks like
Re: Need a quick help For my friends Honda Elite .
Posted: Sun Apr 01, 2012 12:07 am
by dun rite
take the spark plug out. screw in tester until snug then follow this.
http://hondaspree.net/wiki/index.php5?t ... sion_Check
Re: Man I can't believe it
Posted: Sun Apr 01, 2012 1:14 am
by Duke250
Yep all my problem is I don't have enough compression in my engines. I only have 2000 miles in it . So i just did the compression It is way under 75. I have the picture up . So I guest I need to change my rings? Any idea now ? that is why I couldn't get it running .