Honda Spree and Elite 50 Forums

stillspeeding wrote:This vidio is for both of you punks- www.pmtuning.co.uk click on news then clik on the 11.90 1/4 mi. record, funny thing is my pro street aero will smoke this guy only i need wheelie bars, we were banned by the n.h.r.a. 15 yrs ago for to much speed, now thats fast

this proves nothing besides the fact that you cant link the page you want to.

pattersondm wrote:Hello again,

Honda elite 1997

So a couple weeks ago I took off the pulley and removed the plate that restricted the top speed of the moped. While the crank case was off and the pulley was off I looked at the rollers. It appeared that the rollers have flat spots on them from wear and tear. Should I replace these with new onces? What benefits would this give me? It does seem while riding right now it loses it acceleration for a 1/2 second around 25 mph then picks right back up to ~35.

here is a bad picture of the rollers. http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v694/ ... img093.jpg

Second question, I am looking for more power mods I can perform on this moped with out breaking the bank. Here is what I have done to date. Bored out exhaust on header side, removed restricter plate on pulley. I do have some hills in my area and do all my riding in down town Grand Rapids MI (city diving). So it would be nice to have good top end but also not lose the low end take off for dealing with traffic. Can I change the CDI, pulleys, gears, exhaust? What is the first or best combination for bang for your buck. I don't mind reading up on things just point me in the right direction if you would.

Thanks for all your help,
Devin

You might want to go through some of the posts at www.hawaiimopedriders.com

Dave's posts may not be organized for the beginner, but his posts are very authoritative and accurate.

-1) Make sure your tires are inflated correctly.
0) The faster you go, the more it costs, however, you can spend lots of money and still not go very fast.
1) Change your weights and put a little bit of lube on your front pulley/boss assembly. Weights go flat over time, but will wear out quickly with excessive heat. Unless you get Malossi weights, then make sure you face them correctly. Also check your pulley and ramp plate for wear.
2) Sounds like your rear clutch spring is worn. To replace it, a lot of Hawaii folks use a 1.5" Craftsman socket to get the big nut off. It's not the best tool. Honda used to make a special wrench (I forget the mm size), but it has long been unavailable. Even quality Knock-offs have become rare as well. IMHO, even the quality knock-offs are better than having to use a socket and impact driver, but good luck finding the wrench. Get the lightest aftermarket spring (cheaper than stock) and see how that works for you.
3) Check your belt and change it if necessary.
4) A bore kit will give you the best bang for your buck. You can still run the stock pipe and carb and get a huge performance increase. You'll want to go pre-mix at this point. Your acceleration will increase as well as your top speed. If you want more top speed, then change your gears.
5) Remove the rear variator cover and leave it that way. You'll get less heat building up in the drive train.
6) Change your gear oil. It's probably silver.
7) If you change your gears, make sure that you purchase gears that are already pressed into the spindle - unless you have a 15-Ton press handy. I don't know why any shop would ship gears w/o warning folks that you'll need a press to do the change, but I know it's happened.

www.hawaiimopedriders.com , thats were your from!
Thats another good forum, to bad so many people stop getting on. My question is what happen to dave?

Dave and his shop aren't active right now, but smart folks still seek him out for advice or if they really need help w/something. Part of it is accident-related health impacts and then there's probably some burn-out after so many years of ped and motorcycle racing, and dealing with stupid people.

AFAIK, he hasn't gotten new challengers recently, so he's still unbeaten here.

55bore wrote:1) Change your weights and put a little bit of lube on your front pulley/boss assembly. Weights go flat over time, but will wear out quickly with excessive heat. Unless you get Malossi weights, then make sure you face them correctly. Also check your pulley and ramp plate for wear.

What kind of lube are we talking for all the stuff on the front crank (vari, drive boss)?? Like some kind of grease (e.g. lithium)?

Thanks a crapton--my drivebox is getting a little toasty... I swapped varis and probably should have lubed up first.