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Re: PLEASE HELP!!!!
Posted: Sun Jan 17, 2010 12:20 am
by odinxxix
plug gap is around .028 thousandths, put a new plug in if it hasnt been running in a year, replace trans cover and tell us what happens
Re: PLEASE HELP!!!!
Posted: Sun Jan 17, 2010 6:15 am
by evilone
So motor was oil-locked too huh? May need oil pump but i wouldn't worry about that yet, Might be small leak and a year would cause case to fill up. You can have my kicker case. I'll email you.
Re: PLEASE HELP!!!!
Posted: Sun Jan 17, 2010 8:50 am
by martynkim
I sure would appreciate the cover evilone, I sent you an email back with an address. Yes it was oil locked it wouldn't budge until I cleared it
Re: PLEASE HELP!!!!
Posted: Sun Jan 17, 2010 9:29 am
by martynkim
Got another question, I noticed when I took off the carburetor that the filter was shot. I have a K&N style filter I can replace it with. What do you think?
K&N
Posted: Sun Jan 17, 2010 9:40 am
by Wheelman-111
Greetings:
Many poo-pooh the K&Ns. I ran one and found it indistinguishable from the UNI Pod variety. They are heavy and that can be an issue on spigot-mount carbs, but the performance is no different.

Be careful tightening up those 8mm hex bolts on the carb flange, too. If they're stripped out - a common problem - re-tap the carb flange's threaded holes with 1/4", or Heli-coil.
You will need to jet up considerably from the size that suited a stock airbox - perhaps up to 90 or more with a stock everything-else. Be sure to saturate the cotton mesh as K&N recommends with their red oil.
Re: PLEASE HELP!!!!
Posted: Sun Jan 17, 2010 9:47 am
by martynkim
I'll give it a try but, If I have to rejet (I know nothing about) I'll just buy the replacement filter. This is a K&N Style not an actual K&N flange is too big for it but I thought I'd just buy a cheap funnel and sacrifice it to fitting this filter.
Re: PLEASE HELP!!!!
Posted: Sun Jan 17, 2010 9:50 am
by Wheelman-111
Greetings:
K&N makes a 1" size that will glom over the carb mouth. So does UNI. If you can remove a carb for cleaning, and operate a flat screwdriver, you can replace a main jet. Stock box is fine for stock block, but may limit a modded engine.
Re: PLEASE HELP!!!! [Resurrecting 1987 SE50 Elite -Ed.]
Posted: Sun Jan 17, 2010 9:55 am
by martynkim
I don't think it is modded this bike looks all stock. I just have not looked into "how to" rejet a carb yet. It may need replacement parts anyway as the float is cracked im epoxy the float now.
Re: PLEASE HELP!!!! [Resurrecting 1987 SE50 Elite -Ed.]
Posted: Sun Jan 17, 2010 9:58 am
by martynkim
Nice edit on my title! was that you wheelman?
Re: PLEASE HELP!!!! [Resurrecting 1987 SE50 Elite -Ed.]
Posted: Sun Jan 17, 2010 11:00 am
by aerorob
for getting it running initally, i would just buy a stock honda filter element. that way you dont have to mess with jets yet. that is somethiing you will do after its running well and you want to modify it. im sure with a clean carb and a charged bat. you will get it to start.
Re: PLEASE HELP!!!! [Resurrecting 1987 SE50 Elite -Ed.]
Posted: Sun Jan 17, 2010 12:40 pm
by martynkim
YOu are probably right aerorob as I don't want to change things too much as it ran this way before.

Re: PLEASE HELP!!!! [Resurrecting 1987 SE50 Elite -Ed.]
Posted: Sun Jan 17, 2010 2:59 pm
by martynkim
d***, another failure I put the carb on after cleaning it and tried to start it. It wasn't even giving a hint of firing so i put my hand over the carb to choke it. Then the starter began to grind.

It must not be aligned properly AGAIN!!! I guess this kick cover is done!

I guess I should wait for evilone to send the cover before I really screw it up

Re: PLEASE HELP!!!! [Resurrecting 1987 SE50 Elite -Ed.]
Posted: Sun Jan 17, 2010 6:07 pm
by evilone
martynkim wrote:I guess I should wait for evilone to send the cover before I really screw it up

It'll be there Tuesday, Wednesday at the latest. I sent it 2 day priority.
Re: PLEASE HELP!!!! [Resurrecting 1987 SE50 Elite -Ed.]
Posted: Sun Jan 17, 2010 6:08 pm
by martynkim
Found the problem. Nut on the crank came loose making the pulley too far away for the starter to connect

Re: PLEASE HELP!!!! [Resurrecting 1987 SE50 Elite -Ed.]
Posted: Sun Jan 17, 2010 6:09 pm
by martynkim