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center spring saver
Posted: Sun May 10, 2015 3:17 am
by maddog
Just installed this old school part which is new to you kidz, I put an order for Honda but my sleeper jog gets gears next week and will be a supeer sleeper, its faster than cashing a welfare check in Nashville Tennesse.
Re: center spring saver
Posted: Sun May 10, 2015 9:37 am
by DirtyE
Is it like a malossi torsion controller or the motorio ball bearing controller?
Re: center spring saver
Posted: Sun May 10, 2015 10:18 am
by 1man8scoots
It's neither, it actually goes on top of the spring between the clutch and spring instead of under between the spring and pulley. Even if the kid has one he wouldn't know how to use it or why he's using it. There's not a lot of people who annoy me on this site but this guy's the biggest loser and tool.
Re: center spring saver
Posted: Sun May 10, 2015 10:39 am
by Wheelman-111
Greetings:
And yet you respond to hs baseless provocations...like The Bear before you, playing his pointlessly pugnacious game. Leave off and I will examine his recent posts for a reason for banning him. Don't become his casualty too.
Nashville cats; play clean as Country water.
Re: center spring saver
Posted: Sun May 10, 2015 10:42 am
by 1man8scoots
You know it's hard to not respond to his bs.
Re: center spring saver
Posted: Sun May 10, 2015 12:51 pm
by 1man8scoots
There's ones that go under the spring, then there's savers which go on top. Some bikes come with them stock. Not a big whoopty do.
Re: center spring saver
Posted: Sun May 10, 2015 2:15 pm
by ped
Re: center spring saver
Posted: Sun May 10, 2015 2:34 pm
by 1man8scoots
There are spring savers and torsion controls, and then there are radial ball bearing supports. Spring savers are inserts that just keep the spring from pedastalling the clutch and centers the spring so it slides easier, torsion control is like an absorber that also makes the spring tighter. Radial bearing supports help it make more noise is all I've seen them do and also gives less room for the spring to variate. Kymco uses them. I remove them.
Re: center spring saver
Posted: Sun May 10, 2015 2:44 pm
by ped
1man8scoots wrote:There are spring savers and torsion controls, and then there are radial ball bearing supports. Spring savers are inserts that just keep the spring from pedastalling the clutch and centers the spring so it slides easier, torsion control is like an absorber that also makes the spring tighter. Radial bearing supports help it make more noise is all I've seen them do and also gives less room for the spring to variate. Kymco uses them. I remove them.
I see ok. thanks for the helpful info.

Re: center spring saver
Posted: Sun May 10, 2015 2:49 pm
by 1man8scoots
That's just my understanding of them. If someone has a more professional answer I'm all ears for sure.
Re: center spring saver
Posted: Sun May 10, 2015 3:24 pm
by DirtyE
I have said yellow controller unopened and ready to install. Ive used them before, but have never had a problem with a binding spring. Ill put it in for smoother placebo shifting effect.
The more important part is the pin guides in the torque driver.
Re: center spring saver
Posted: Sun May 10, 2015 4:52 pm
by ped
hi guys. this is the one I have from Malossi.
has anyone seen real benefits from using it? I've never had binding problems.
Re: center spring saver
Posted: Sun May 10, 2015 7:09 pm
by DirtyE
It eliminates metal to metal friction. That has to be better. Ive not felt any dif using them, but it would add preload to the spring. I dont see it restricting pulley movement, but if it prevents the rear pulley from opening or closing all the way that would hinder performance.
Re: center spring saver
Posted: Sun May 10, 2015 8:44 pm
by ped
DirtyE wrote:It eliminates metal to metal friction. That has to be better. Ive not felt any dif using them, but it would add preload to the spring. I dont see it restricting pulley movement, but if it prevents the rear pulley from opening or closing all the way that would hinder performance.
oh I see, I did not use mine, because I thought it created more grip to keep the pulley engage longer. for like a better take off at the track?
I learn something new everyday. thanks dirty

Re: center spring saver
Posted: Mon May 11, 2015 12:56 am
by Rip_City_Spree
I've been running one for a while now and can't if it's helping or not as I'm still having issues getting it dialed in. I should pull it to see what condition it's in.